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[[File:SU-152 SPG.webp|thumb|Remember comrade, when the enemy has a [[Stug III|good idea]], it never hurts to try it out yourself.]] | |||
The SU-152 is a unit available in Flames of War and the last Soviet armored vehicle built off the KV-1 chassis. It was armed with a 15.2 cm Cannon and earned a fierce reputation as Stalin's answer to the Tiger and Panther tanks. | The SU-152 is a unit available in Flames of War and the last Soviet armored vehicle built off the KV-1 chassis. It was armed with a 15.2 cm Cannon and earned a fierce reputation as Stalin's answer to the Tiger and Panther tanks. | ||
==Late War== | |||
[[File:SU-152 SPG Statcard.jpg|thumb|left|Da Stats]] | |||
==IRL== | ==IRL== | ||
Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. | Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. The Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism|Tankies]] will tell you, were largely a backward state in the 40s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Soviet Union over. As such at the war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you need part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the Commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer. | ||
Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152. | |||
The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis | The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun [[152mm Artillery|almost straight from ML-20 artillery pieces]] (the ML-20S variant that was used for the SU-152 benefitted from the controls being moved to better fit inside a self-propelled gun's enclosed compartment), which was later given a DsHK for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed because its high-explosive shells were so powerful [[Awesome|that they would still kill the fuck out of a tank's crew without going through its armor]] - hence, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and its HE rounds often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte. | ||
For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it *could* be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle. | |||
The 152 was later superseded by the ISU-152, a tank that was largely similar, but used the IS chassis instead of a KV chassis, as the KV chassis had been retired by that point. | |||
The 152 was later | |||
{{Soviet Forces in Flames of War}} | {{Soviet Forces in Flames of War}} | ||
Latest revision as of 10:47, 22 June 2023
The SU-152 is a unit available in Flames of War and the last Soviet armored vehicle built off the KV-1 chassis. It was armed with a 15.2 cm Cannon and earned a fierce reputation as Stalin's answer to the Tiger and Panther tanks.
Late War[edit]
IRL[edit]
Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. The Soviets, contrary to what the Tankies will tell you, were largely a backward state in the 40s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Soviet Union over. As such at the war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you need part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the Commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.
Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.
The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun almost straight from ML-20 artillery pieces (the ML-20S variant that was used for the SU-152 benefitted from the controls being moved to better fit inside a self-propelled gun's enclosed compartment), which was later given a DsHK for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed because its high-explosive shells were so powerful that they would still kill the fuck out of a tank's crew without going through its armor - hence, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and its HE rounds often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy Elefants. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.
For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it *could* be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.
The 152 was later superseded by the ISU-152, a tank that was largely similar, but used the IS chassis instead of a KV chassis, as the KV chassis had been retired by that point.
| Soviet Forces in Flames of War | |
|---|---|
| Tanks: | T-70 - Valentine - M5/M3 Stuart - M3 Lee - T-34 - KV - Churchill - IS-2 - Captured Tank Platoon - T-28 - BT-7 - KV-2 - T-26 |
| Transports: | M3 Scout Car - Universal Carrier - SdKfz 251 |
| Infantry: | Rifles - Motor Rifles - Penal Company - Storm Group - SMG Company - Engineer Sapper Company |
| Artillery: | Katyusha - 152mm Artillery - 122mm Artillery - 76mm Artillery - 120mm Mortars - 82mm mortars |
| Tank Destroyers and Assault Guns: | 45mm Anti Tank - 57mm Anti Tank - 76mm Anti Tank - 100mm Anti Tank - SU-76 - SU-85 - SU-100 - SU-122 - SU-152 - ISU-122/ISU-152 |
| Recon: | Scout Platoon - BA-64 Platoon - Armored Reconnaissance Platoon - Reconnaissance Platoon |
| Aircraft: | Il-2 Sturmovik |
| Anti-Aircraft: | ZSU M17 - DShK AA MG Platoon |
| Midwar Monsters: | KV-3 - KV-5 - T-43 |