Scout Squad

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Bolter (& Chainsword) Scouts
For the D&D class, see Scout (D&D).

"Forget all your preconceptions of war, of battle-lines clashing in the churned ground. Your mission is to attack before the foe even realises that the war has begun, to strike hard at those vital weaknesses that all armies possess, but that no commander will admit to. Under my tutelage you will learn how to seek out such fragilities and smite them with every weapon at your disposal. Master these duties and I will have nothing more to teach, and you will truly be a Space Marine."

– Sergeant Torias Telion

"Grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, I hurt people."

– The Scout, Team Fortress 2

In Space Marine Chapters that follow the Codex Astartes, Scouts are Space Marines in training. They have not yet gained the Black Carapace, the gene-seed organ that allows a Marine to interface with his power armour, so they just lug around in un-powered Scout Armour instead. They are usually organized into squads in the Tenth Company, and are the only Marines that regularly wield Sniper Rifles/Nemesis Bolters or use camouflage (although, in some Chapters and the Deathwatch, full Marines do use both), although sometimes, they can also use an Astartes Assault Shotgun or a regular Bolter if things get hectic. Fittingly, the Raven Guard use a lot of Scouts, since their combat doctrine centers around infiltration and sabotage. Once he serves about ten years as a Scout, the Space Marine receives his Black Carapace and power armour, and is sent off to the Devastator Squads.

They are led by a Sergeant, who is usually a member of a Tactical Squad that chooses to impart his wisdom to a younger generation, but may also be a Veteran Scout who refused the opportunity to become a full-fledged Space Marine. In the case of the Blood Ravens, they are led by Steve Blum voicing an angsty, ineffectual dork, who he hopes one day to teach all the Blood Ravens to be angsty, ineffectual dorks. His most important lesson is to go out of the way to point out problems and question every solution as if it was the most inexperienced idea you've ever heard.

Also, if you even say the word "bonk" within a hundred feet of an Angry Marine Scout with a Power Bat, he will beat you so hard you won't know which end of your sternum you're looking through.

Back in the times of the Great Crusade however, the Space Marine Legions didn't have Scouts at all. Instead they had the even better Legion Reconnaissance Squads. Instead of being made out of simple Neophytes that were to experience their tour of actual combat, Legion Reconnaissance Squads were made out of experts at reconnaissance, intel gathering, guerilla warfare, assassinations and sabotage. If they were fighting along their brethren on the battlefield, then they'd become flankers and wreck havoc and confusion among the enemy's ranks. The Primaris would revive this concept with Eliminators.

Sniper (& Missile Launcher) Scouts

A history of stat lines[edit]

So how mighty is the Scout, as Junior Marine, on a stat line basis? Well, he has always gotten slightly worse armour, due to not being power armoured.

In 2E's Codex Imperialis and Codex Ultramarines, Scouts had M4 WS4 BS3 S4 T3 W1 I4 A1 Ld7, which made then as good at punching as Space Marines (as Tactical Marines had 4 in all stats besides W and A was the space marine), but not as good at taking punches or shooting shit and they were slightly more prone to breaking when compared to their full brothers. 3rd Edition saw the Scouts get a good buff by becoming nearly-identical statwise to Tacticals, with the exception of their armor and loadouts.

Scouts from the Raptors chapter.

It was only around 5th where the Scout predilection for shooting came to the fore with WS3 and BS4. This made them guardsmen when it comes to punching things but space marines in the wounding. By 6th edition, all scouts/claws had space marine muscles, but had the finesse of a guardsman. When the Space Wolf and Blood Angel codices continued the trend, everyone expected this to hold through the edition. Then the Space Marine Codex dropped. At no point increase on anything, scouts and anything scout related got WS/BS 4. The Dark Angel codex dropped as well, with the same stat line boost as the Space Marine codex, and free access to Grim Resolve (i.e. Chapter Tactics for Dark Angels). This led to half of the Adeptus Astartes books having junior Marines with WS/BS 4. Meanwhile, the Space Wolves' Sky and Blood Claws get Rage and the old statline. It's still full of derp, as this makes their power armor and frothing rabid rage offset their inexperience.

This leads us to 8th. Here, scouts remain equivalent to marines in stats while keeping their sneaky in different ways. Camo Cloak lets them add +2 to their save when they get shot from cover, which gives them durability equal to a similarly concealed marine. Concealed Positions pretty much is the old Scout USR, allowing a Scout unit to deploy anywhere on the board, so long as it's at least 9" away from an enemy unit.

I Can't Believe It's Not A Scout™[edit]

Though using Neophytes as Scouts was established when the Emperor formed the Legiones Astartes, not all Chapters utilize them as Scouts:

  • Space Wolves Wolf Scout: Scouts in the Space Wolves are bitter, experienced veterans taken from the Grey Hunters (the Space Wolves equivalent of the Tactical Marines); most of them are introverts that find it hard to fit in with the rest of the (incredibly gregarious) Space Wolves and prefer to operate more-or-less alone. New recruits are put in Blood Claw squads instead. As a result, far from being recon-in-force fodder, Wolf Scouts are total operators. They're experts in demolitions, infiltration, sniping, target analysis, and generally sowing chaos in the enemy ranks.
  • Black Templars Neophytes: The Black Templars are too cool to use Scouts. Instead, when an Initiate (the Black Templar equivalent of a Tactical Marine) decides he has learned enough, he takes on a Marine-in-training, referred to as Neophytes, which are then mixed into Crusader squads. This is nominally to pass the experience of an Initiate to a Neophyte, but in reality, the Neophytes just make amazing meatshields. And weapons caddies.
Forces of the Codex Compliant Astartes
Command: Apothecary - Brother-Captain - Brother-Sergeant - Chaplain - Chapter Master
Command Squad - Honour Guard - Librarian - Techmarine
Troops: Assault Squad - Centurion Squad - Chapter Serf - CATs - Devastator Squad
Scout Squad - Servo-skull (Data Skull - Skull Probe) - Tactical Squad
Terminator Squad - Veteran Squad
Great Crusade-era: Breacher Siege Squad - Consul - Despoiler Squad - Destroyer Squad
Legiones Decurion - Legion Herald - Legion Outrider Squad - Legion Vigilator
Moritat - Master of the Signal - Praetor - Reconnaissance Squad - Seeker Squad
Sky Hunter Squad - Tactical Support Squad - Inductii
Structures: Castellum Stronghold
Walkers: Dreadnought (Castraferrum - Contemptor - Deredeo - Leviathan)
Transports: Land Raider - Mastodon Heavy Assault Transport - Razorback Transport
Rhino Transport - Spartan Assault Tank - Termite
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Javelin Attack Speeder - Jetbike - Kratos Heavy Assault Tank
Land Speeder - Predator Tank - Sabre Tank Hunter - Sicaran Battle Tank
Vindicator
Ordnance: Hunter - Legion Arquitor Bombard - Rapier Armoured Carrier - Stalker
Thunderfire Cannon - Whirlwind
Flyers: Caestus Assault Ram - Fire Raptor - Orgus Flyer - Storm Eagle - Stormbird
Stormhawk - Stormraven - Stormtalon - Thunderhawk - Xiphon Interceptor
Superheavy Tanks: Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer - Fellblade Super-Heavy Tank
Typhon Heavy Siege Tank
Spacecraft: Boarding Torpedo - Drop Pod - Space Marine Landing Craft
Allied Space Marines: Fallen Angel - Primaris Marine - Blood Angels - Dark Angels
Deathwatch - Grey Knights - Space Wolves - Black Templars
Forces of the Raven Guard
Command ApothecaryBrother-CaptainBrother-SergeantChaplainChapter MasterCommand SquadLibrarianTechmarine
Troops Assault SquadChapter SerfDevastator SquadMor DeythanScout SquadTactical SquadVeteran Squad
Great Crusade-era Dark FuriesDeliverersShadow WardensMoritatRaptorsLegion VigilatorReconnaissance Squad
Transports Land Speeder Storm
Vehicles Bike SquadImperial JetbikeJavelin Attack SpeederLand Speeder (Land Speeder TornadoLand Speeder Typhoon)
Flyers Chiropteran ScoutStorm Eagle (Darkwing) • StormhawkStormtalonStormravenThunderhawk • (Shadowhawk) • Whispercutter
Spacecraft Drop PodSpace Marine Landing Craft
Allies Fallen AngelsSpace MarinesPrimaris Marines
Forces of the Blood Angels
Command: Apothecary - Brother-Captain - Brother-Sergeant - Chaplain
Chapter Master - Librarian - Sanguinary Priest - Techmarine
Troops: Assault Squad - Devastator Squad - Sanguinary Guard - Scout Squad
Tactical Squad - Terminator Squad - Veteran Squad
Death Company: Death Company - Death Company Chaplain - Death Company Terminator
Great Crusade-era: Angel's Tears - Crimson Paladin - Dawnbreaker
Walkers: Contemptor-Furioso Dreadnought - Contemptor-Incaendius Dreadnought
Death Company Dreadnought - Dreadnought - Furioso Dreadnought
Librarian Dreadnought
Transports: Razorback - Rhino
Vehicles: Baal Predator - Land Raider (Land Raider Crusader - Land Raider Phobos
Land Raider Redeemer - Land Raider Angel Infernus
)
Predator Tank - Vindicator - Hunter - Stalker - Whirlwind
Flyers: Stormhawk - Stormraven - Stormtalon - Storm Eagle - Thunderhawk
Spacecraft: Boarding Torpedo - Drop Pod - Space Marine Landing Craft
Allies: Space Marines - Primaris Marines
Forces of the Dark Angels
Command: Apothecary - Company Master - Interrogator-Chaplain
Chaplain - Librarian - Techmarine - Deathwing Knight
Dark Angels Grand Master
Troops: Assault Squad - Deathwing - Deathwing Strikemaster
Devastator Squad - Company Veterans - Scout Squad
Tactical Squad - Ravenwing Black Knight
Watcher in the Dark
Great Crusade-era: Interemptors - Knights Cenobium - Deathwing Companion
Structures: Fortress of Redemption
Walkers: Dreadnought (Deathwing Dreadnought - Contemptor Dreadnought)
Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought - Mortis Dreadnought
Transports: Land Raider (Land Raider Phobos - Land Raider Crusader
Land Raider Redeemer - Land Raider Ares
Land Raider Solemnus Aggressor) - Rhino
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Razorback - Predator - Vindicator - Hunter
Stalker - Whirlwind - Land Speeder Vengeance
Ravenwing Darkshroud
Flyers: Dark Talon - Nephilim Jetfighter - Stormraven - Storm Eagle
Thunderhawk
Spacecraft: Boarding Torpedo - Drop Pod - Space Marine Landing Craft
Hexagrammaton Deathwing - Dreadwing - Firewing - Ironwing - Ravenwing - Stormwing
Allies: Space Marines - Primaris Marines
Forces of the Imperial Fists
Command: Apothecary - Brother-Captain - Brother-Sergeant
Chaplain - Chapter Master - Command Squad
Huscarls - Librarian - Techmarine
Troops: Assault Squad - Centurion Squad - Chapter Serf - Devastator Squad
Scout Squad - Tactical Squad - Terminator Squad - Veteran Squad
Great Crusade-era: Breacher Siege Squad - Templar Brethrens - Phalanx Warders
Structures: Castellum Stronghold
Walkers: Dreadnought (Castraferrum - Contemptor - Deredeo - Leviathan)
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Imperial Jetbike - Javelin Attack Speeder
Land Raider (Land Raider Achilles) - Land Speeder - Predator Tank
Razorback Transport - Rhino Transport - Vindicator
Ordnance: Hunter Multi-Launcher Vehicle - Legion Arquitor Bombard
Rapier Armoured Carrier - Stalker - Thunderfire Cannon
Whirlwind
Flyers: Caestus Assault Ram - Storm Eagle - Stormhawk
Stormtalon - Stormraven - Thunderhawk
Special Vehicles: Ætos Dios
Spacecraft: Drop Pod - Boarding Torpedo - Space Marine Landing Craft
Allies: Fallen Angels - Space Marines - Primaris Marines
Forces of the Ultramarines
Command: Apothecary - Brother-Captain - Brother-Sergeant - Chaplain
Chapter Master - Command Squad - Librarian - Techmarine
Ultramarines Honour Guard - Victrix Guard
Troops: Assault Squad - Centurion Squad - Chapter Serf - CATs
Devastator Squad - Scout Squad - Tactical Squad - Terminator Squad
Veteran Squad (Tyrannic War Veterans)
Great Crusade-era: Fulmentarus - Invictus Guard - Locutarus
Nemesis Destroyers - Praetorian Breacher Squad
Walkers: Dreadnought (Castraferrum - Contemptor - Deredeo - Leviathan)
Transports: Land Raider - Land Speeder Storm
Razorback Transport - Rhino Transport
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Javelin Attack Speeder - Land Raider Terminus Ultra
Land Speeder - Predator Tank - Sicaran Battle Tank - Vindicator
Ordnance: Hunter Multi-Launcher Vehicle - Stalker - Thunderfire Cannon - Whirlwind
Superheavy Vehicles: Fellblade (Falchion)
Flyers: Fire Raptor - Storm Eagle - Stormhawk
Stormtalon - Stormraven - Thunderhawk
Spacecraft: Drop Pod - Boarding Torpedo - Space Marine Landing Craft
Allies: Fallen Angels - Space Marines - Primaris Marines
Forces of the White Scars
Command: Apothecary - Brother-Captain - Brother-Sergeant
Chaplain - Chapter Master - Command Squad
Stormseer - Techmarine
Troops: Assault Squad - Chapter Serf - Scout Squad
Tactical Squad - Veteran Squad
Great Crusade-era: Ebon Keshig - Falcon's Claws - Golden Keshig
Karaoghlanlar - Legion Outrider Squad - Sky Hunter Squad
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Imperial Jetbike - Javelin Attack Speeder
Kyzagan Assault Speeder - Land Speeder (Tempest)
Predator Tank - Rhino Transport
Flyers: Nephilim Jetfighter - Fire Raptor - Storm Eagle
Stormhawk - Stormtalon - Thunderhawk
Spacecraft: Drop Pod (Adeptus Astartes - Deathstorm)
Allies: Fallen Angels - Space Marines - Primaris Marines
Forces of the Iron Hands
Command: Apothecary - Brother-Captain - Brother-Sergeant - Chaplain
Command Squad - Iron Father - Librarian - Techmarine
Troops: Assault Squad - Centurion Squad - Chapter Serf - CATs - Devastator Squad
Scout Squad - Tactical Squad - Terminator Squad - Veteran Squad
Great Crusade-era: Breacher Siege Squad - Morlocks - Gorgon Terminators - Medusan Immortals
Walkers: Dreadnought (Castraferrum - Contemptor - Deredeo - Leviathan)
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Imperial Jetbike - Javelin Attack Speeder
Land Raider - Land Speeder - Predator Tank
Razorback Transport - Rhino Transport - Sabre Strike Tank
Sicaran Battle Tank - Vindicator
Ordnance: Hunter Multi-Launcher Vehicle - Legion Arquitor Bombard
Stalker - Thunderfire Cannon - Whirlwind
Flyers: Storm Eagle - Stormhawk - Stormtalon - Stormraven - Thunderhawk
Superheavy Vehicles: Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer - Fellblade - Land-Behemoth
Spacecraft: Drop Pod - Boarding Torpedo - Space Marine Landing Craft
Allies: Adeptus Mechanicus - Fallen Angels - Space Marines - Primaris Marines
Forces of the Salamanders
Command: Apothecary - Brother-Captain - Brother-Sergeant - Chaplain - Chapter Master
Command Squad - Forgefather - Librarian - Pyre Guard - Techmarine
Troops: Assault Squad - Centurion Squad - Chapter Serf - CATs - Devastator Squad
Scout Squad - Tactical Squad - Terminator Squad - Veteran Squad
Great Crusade-era: Breacher Siege Squad - Firedrakes - Pyroclasts
Walkers: Dreadnought (Castraferrum - Contemptor - Deredeo - Leviathan)
Transports: Land Raider (Land Raider Redeemer - Land Raider Prometheus
Land Raider Crusader) - Mastodon - Razorback Transport - Rhino
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Predator Tank (Predator Annihilator
Predator Deimos Annihilator - Predator Infernus
)
Vindicator
Ordnance: Hunter Multi-Launcher Vehicle - Stalker - Thunderfire Cannon - Whirlwind
Superheavy Vehicles: Fellblade (Glaive)
Flyers: Storm Eagle - Stormhawk - Stormtalon - Stormraven - Thunderhawk
Spacecraft: Drop Pod - Boarding Torpedo - Space Marine Landing Craft
Allies: Fallen Angels - Space Marines - Primaris Marines