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The Testudo was an armoured personnel carrier (APC) that was used by the Imperial Army during the [[Great Crusade]] and the [[Horus Heresy]]. The Testudo was the [[Chimera]]'s predecessor and apparently looked no different than today's APCs. The reason why the Testudo was phased out by the Chimera was because the Testudo was lightly armed and armored whereas the Chimera have the same function as the Testudo but with improved defenses and armoring. Another disadvantage of the Testudo was that it used solid rubber tires, which were less dependable than metal tracks later used by the Chimera [[Derp|which is stupid because replacing a flat tire takes less time and is so much easier than replacing a destroyed track.]] Its disadvantage against the Chimera is also bizarre since the Testudo is one of the few Imperial vehicles that actually has sloped armor (If taken that its design is a modern APC and if we ignore the fact a Chimera’s front armor is sloped) whereas the Chimera doesn't (unless you are looking from the front), <s>[[Wat|meaning that the Testudo has more chance of surviving a hit from a anti-tank weapon due to its sloped armor ricocheting the shot while the Chimera has to eat a direct hit]]</s> meaning that the Testudo armour would have been more effective because it would offer a longer path of armor to an incoming hit. <s>Another example of GeeDubs [[Fail|failing]] again</s>. Although this could make somewhat sense if at some point during the crusade the Mechanicum discovered some alloy or way of producing armor that would work better at taking hits horizontally. Like some reactive material hardening whobbly.. stuff. That would explain the "boxiness" of late imperial vehicles. After all sloped armor decrease internal space and this is quite a problem in APCs especially. The vehicle's main advantage over most other military vehicles of the time was its speed, as the absence of thick armor or heavy metal tracks allowed the vehicle to reach impressive speeds.  Ok, have any of you even looked at a Chimera?  It’s front is sloped.  A Leman Russ also has sloped armor though with a lesser slope and also only in the front and turret (which is also true of modern APCs and IFVs and MBTs anyway).  Besides, the Testuro had thinner armor, inferior firepower (the picture used on this page is just a modified Chimera merely with the tracks exchanged for tires) and unlike this pictured kitbash it did not have a way for the troops to fire out like mounted lasguns used on Chimera.  On top of that, this vehicle was used in the Chimera’s IFV role (since the Chimera replaced it, they had to have had the same role and a Chimera is used as an IFV), so you can imagine why having tires and thin armor was bad.
The Testudo was an armoured personnel carrier (APC) that was used by the Imperial Army during the [[Great Crusade]] and the [[Horus Heresy]]. The Testudo was the [[Chimera]]'s predecessor and apparently looked no different than today's APCs. The reason why the Testudo was phased out by the Chimera was because the Testudo was lightly armed and armored whereas the Chimera have the same function as the Testudo but with improved defenses and armoring. Another disadvantage of the Testudo was that it used solid rubber tires, which were less dependable than metal tracks later used by the Chimera [[Derp|which is stupid because replacing a flat tire takes less time and is so much easier than replacing a destroyed track.]] Its disadvantage against the Chimera is also bizarre since the Testudo is one of the few Imperial vehicles that actually has sloped armor (If taken that its design is a modern APC and if we ignore the fact a Chimera’s front armor is sloped) whereas the Chimera doesn't (unless you are looking from the front), <s>[[Wat|meaning that the Testudo has more chance of surviving a hit from a anti-tank weapon due to its sloped armor ricocheting the shot while the Chimera has to eat a direct hit]]</s> meaning that the Testudo armour would have been more effective because it would offer a longer path of armor to an incoming hit. <s>Another example of GeeDubs [[Fail|failing]] again</s>. Although this could make somewhat sense if at some point during the crusade the Mechanicum discovered some alloy or way of producing armor that would work better at taking hits horizontally. Like some reactive material hardening whobbly.. stuff. That would explain the "boxiness" of late imperial vehicles. After all sloped armor decrease internal space and this is quite a problem in APCs especially. The vehicle's main advantage over most other military vehicles of the time was its speed, as the absence of thick armor or heavy metal tracks allowed the vehicle to reach impressive speeds.  Ok, have any of you even looked at a Chimera?  It’s front is sloped.  A Leman Russ also has sloped armor though with a lesser slope and also only in the front and turret (which is also true of modern APCs and IFVs and MBTs anyway).  Besides, the Testuro had thinner armor, inferior firepower (the picture used on this page is just a modified Chimera merely with the tracks exchanged for tires) and unlike this pictured kitbash it did not have a way for the troops to fire out like mounted lasguns used on Chimera.  On top of that, this vehicle was used in the Chimera’s IFV role (since the Chimera replaced it, they had to have had the same role and a Chimera is used as an IFV), so you can imagine why having tires and thin armor was bad.


The weird part of the Testudo is that despite being lightly armored, it somehow weighed at a hefty 40 tons which is as heavy as a modern Main Battle Tank. Whether the Testudo was lightly armored in comparison to its weight or it was another example of [[Fail|developer oversight doing a typo]] is unknown. The Testudo is also one of the few wheeled vehicles of the Imperium, the other being the [[Tauros]].
<s>The weird part of the Testudo is that despite being lightly armored, it somehow weighed at a hefty 40 tons which is as heavy as a modern Main Battle Tank. Whether the Testudo was lightly armored in comparison to its weight or it was another example of [[Fail|developer oversight doing a typo]] is unknown.</s> An M1 Abrams MBT weighs half-again as much as a Testudo and is smaller than a Chimera which itself is slightly lighter than a Testudo. The Testudo is also one of the few wheeled vehicles of the Imperium, the other being the [[Tauros]].


As the primary Chimera-equivalent of the [[Solar Auxilia]], the [[Aurox Armoured Transport]] could be considered its spiritual successor.
As the primary Chimera-equivalent of the [[Solar Auxilia]], the [[Aurox Armoured Transport]] could be considered its spiritual successor.

Revision as of 12:56, 14 January 2019

What a Testudo may look like, and it automatically looks more practically designed than 90% of the Imperium armory.

The Testudo was an armoured personnel carrier (APC) that was used by the Imperial Army during the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy. The Testudo was the Chimera's predecessor and apparently looked no different than today's APCs. The reason why the Testudo was phased out by the Chimera was because the Testudo was lightly armed and armored whereas the Chimera have the same function as the Testudo but with improved defenses and armoring. Another disadvantage of the Testudo was that it used solid rubber tires, which were less dependable than metal tracks later used by the Chimera which is stupid because replacing a flat tire takes less time and is so much easier than replacing a destroyed track. Its disadvantage against the Chimera is also bizarre since the Testudo is one of the few Imperial vehicles that actually has sloped armor (If taken that its design is a modern APC and if we ignore the fact a Chimera’s front armor is sloped) whereas the Chimera doesn't (unless you are looking from the front), meaning that the Testudo has more chance of surviving a hit from a anti-tank weapon due to its sloped armor ricocheting the shot while the Chimera has to eat a direct hit meaning that the Testudo armour would have been more effective because it would offer a longer path of armor to an incoming hit. Another example of GeeDubs failing again. Although this could make somewhat sense if at some point during the crusade the Mechanicum discovered some alloy or way of producing armor that would work better at taking hits horizontally. Like some reactive material hardening whobbly.. stuff. That would explain the "boxiness" of late imperial vehicles. After all sloped armor decrease internal space and this is quite a problem in APCs especially. The vehicle's main advantage over most other military vehicles of the time was its speed, as the absence of thick armor or heavy metal tracks allowed the vehicle to reach impressive speeds. Ok, have any of you even looked at a Chimera? It’s front is sloped. A Leman Russ also has sloped armor though with a lesser slope and also only in the front and turret (which is also true of modern APCs and IFVs and MBTs anyway). Besides, the Testuro had thinner armor, inferior firepower (the picture used on this page is just a modified Chimera merely with the tracks exchanged for tires) and unlike this pictured kitbash it did not have a way for the troops to fire out like mounted lasguns used on Chimera. On top of that, this vehicle was used in the Chimera’s IFV role (since the Chimera replaced it, they had to have had the same role and a Chimera is used as an IFV), so you can imagine why having tires and thin armor was bad.

The weird part of the Testudo is that despite being lightly armored, it somehow weighed at a hefty 40 tons which is as heavy as a modern Main Battle Tank. Whether the Testudo was lightly armored in comparison to its weight or it was another example of developer oversight doing a typo is unknown. An M1 Abrams MBT weighs half-again as much as a Testudo and is smaller than a Chimera which itself is slightly lighter than a Testudo. The Testudo is also one of the few wheeled vehicles of the Imperium, the other being the Tauros.

As the primary Chimera-equivalent of the Solar Auxilia, the Aurox Armoured Transport could be considered its spiritual successor.

Alternative viewpoints

The tracked vs wheeled vehicle debate is a very long and storied one in military design circles but as a rule of thumb, the heavier a military vehicle is, or the more it's expected to go on rough or soft terrain, the more it benefits from tracks. Tracks are also good when you are going to be directly engaged by the enemy since smallarms aren’t going to cripple you. Similarly, tracked and wheeled vehicles have very different turning mechanisms, with tracked vehicles generally being more capable of turning in place than their wheeled counterparts. The most common contention in the tracks versus wheels debate is tactical mobility is inferior to strategic speed. A Chimera could go up and down hills, through muddy craters, and even turn in place, but a person arguing in favor of wheels says the ability to move the vehicle from one area to the next faster is worth more. Ignoring the wheels getting much more easily stuck or shot out or damaged by the environment. But if there is a pleasant highway feel free to use it. It is guaranteed there will be no traps or enemy weapons covering it since soldiers are afraid of roads. As for sloped armour, modern munitions like the M829 would not ricochet off of armour it fails to penetrate; instead the projectile shatters due to the energy forces involved. So while sloped armour can defeat more primitive munitions with an efficiency that flatter armor cannot, now its primary advantage is increasing total armor thickness without using a larger (and thus more expensive) armour plate. Sloped armour does have a cost, however, namely in the form of interior space, which is why generally modern tanks no longer have sloped side or rear armour like some World War Two or early Cold War vehicles did. Similarly, the Testudo's forty-ton weight is comparable to modern vehicles in a similar role, particularly the T-15 Armada platform, though most of the heavier infantry fighting vehicles (IFV's) of today are tracked. Neither the Testudo nor the Chimera are particularly bad designs for an IFV; certainly there have been more hare-brained schematics proposed in real life and much weirder shit in the setting, but given the Imperium's frequent need to deploy on backwater planets or in poor terrain for wheeled vehicles one can see why the imperials prefer the Chimera. Additionally, the less powerful engines of the Imperium by the time of 40k means reproducing the Testudo would probably not be possible. Assuming an Admech would want to commit tech heresy, he would probably reason that stronger armor is easier to acquire than better propulsion (unless you work for the Gary Stus).

Weaponry

The Testudo was armed with an Autocannon mounted on a small turret, which was capable of turning a full 360 degrees, which allowed the vehicle to engage enemy units whether it was travelling towards them or fleeing. The Testudo's troop compartment was capable of carrying an entire infantry squad, up to twelve soldiers, yet lacked the Lasgun mounts featured on the Chimera. The troop compartment only had a single exit, a rear ramp wide enough to allow two soldiers to exit the vehicle side-by-side. The inside of the troop hold featured benches that ran the length of the hold, allowing the passengers to sit down. Near the front of the passenger hold were ammunition baskets that held the ammunition for the vehicle's turret-mounted Autocannon. It is unknown if the Testudo was able to be outfitted with other weapons or upgrades.

Vehicles of the Imperium of Man
Walkers Brutalis Dreadnought - Contemptor-Galatus Dreadnought - Contemptor-Incaendius Dreadnought
Death Company Dreadnought - Deathwatch Dreadnought - Dreadnought - Nemesis Dreadknight
Doomglaive Dreadnought - Furioso Dreadnought - Ironstrider Ballistarius - Invictor Tactical Warsuit
Librarian Dreadnought - Mortifier - Mortis Dreadnought - Onager Dunecrawler - Penitent Engine
Redemptor Dreadnought - Sentinel - Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought - Sydonian Dragoon
Telemon Heavy Dreadnought - Throne of Judgement - Wulfen Dreadnought - Paragon Warsuit
Arachni-rig - Ballistus Dreadnought - Eldthursar - Hrimthursar - Ridge Walker
Unmanned
Robots
Auto-Gurney - Ambot - Castellan-class robot - Cataphract-class robot - Colossus-class robot
Conqueror-class robot - Crusader-class robot - Cyclops Demolition Vehicle - CATs - Nuncio-Aquila
Robot Crawler - Sanctioner Pattern Automaton - Servo-Automata - Servo-skull - Scyllax-class robot
Thanatar-class robot - Thunderfire Cannon - Vultarax stratos-automata
Transports Aurox - Chimera - Coronus Grav Carrier - Crassus Armored Assault Transport - Chronos Pattern Ironcrawler
Goliath Truck - Gorgon Armored Assault Transport - Hades Breaching Drill - Immolator - Impulsor - Macro-Hauler
Pegasus AAV - Razorback Transport - Repressor - Rhino - Road-Wheeler - Taurox - Testudo - Titan Train
Trojan Support Vehicle - Triaros Armoured Conveyer - Tunneling Transport Vehicles
Light
Vehicles
Atlas Recovery Tank - Achilles Ridgerunner - Bane Wolf - Bike Squad - Cargo-8 Ridgehauler - Centaur Utility Vehicle
Devil Dog - Field Ordnance Battery - Galvanic Servohauler - Goliath Mauler - Heavy Quad-Launcher - Hellhound
Invader ATV - Land Crawler - Outrider Quad - Pegasus AFV - Salamander Reconnaissance Tank - Scylla Light Tank
Siegfried - Squat Bike - Squat Trike - Tauros - Tectonic Fragdrill - Venator - Wolfquad
Battle
Tanks
Castigator Tank - Caladius Grav-Tank - Gladiator Tank - Kratos Heavy Assault Tank - Krios Battle Tank
Land Raider - Leman Russ Battle Tank - Predator - Ragnarok - Repulsor Tank - Rogal Dorn Battle Tank
Sabre Tank Hunter - Sicaran Battle Tank - Spartan Assault Tank - Vindicator
Ordnance Basilisk Artillery Gun - Colossus Bombard - Deathstrike Missile Launcher - Exorcist
Goliath Mega-Cannon - Griffon Heavy Mortar Carrier - Hunter - Hydra Flak Tank
Legion Arquitor Bombard - Manticore Launcher Tank - Medusa Siege Gun
Rapier Armoured Carrier - Stalker - Whirlwind - Wyvern Suppression Tank
Superheavy
Tanks
Astraeus - Baneblade - Capitol Imperialis - Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer - Fellblade
Leviathan - Macharius Heavy Tank - Macrocarid Explorator - Malcador Heavy Tank
Mobile Cathedral - Mastodon - Ordinatus - Typhon Heavy Siege Tank
Skimmers Dawneagle Jetbike - Escher Cutter - Gyrfalcon Pattern Jetbike - Imperial Jetbike
Javelin Attack Speeder - Grav-Cutter - Grav-Rhino - Kharon - Kyzagan Assault Speeder
Land Speeder - Land Speeder Vengeance - Pulpit of Saint Holline's Basilica
Skorpius Hover Tank - Stormrider - Storm Speeder - Pallas Grav-Attack - Abeyant
Flyers Archaeocopter - Ares Gunship - Caestus Assault Ram - Container Transporter - Corvus Blackstar
Fire Raptor - Iron Eagle Gyrocopter - Nephilim Jetfighter - Orgus Flyer - Orion Gunship - Overlord Gunship
Sky Talon - Space Marine Landing Craft - Storm Eagle - Stormbird - Stormhawk - Chiropteran
Stormraven - Stormtalon - Stormwolf - Thunderhawk - Whispercutter - Valkyrie - Vendetta - Vulture
Fighters &
Bombers
Avenger Strike Fighter - Lightning Fighter - Marauder Bomber
Stormfang - Thunderbolt Fighter - Xiphon Interceptor
Spacecraft Aquila Lander - Arvus Lighter - Boarding Torpedo - Devourer Dropship - Drop Pod
Faustus Interceptor - Fury Interceptor - Gun-Cutter - Shark Assault Boat
Starhawk Bomber - Tetrarch Heavy Lander - Galaxy Troop Ship
Titans Imperial Knight - Warhound Scout Titan - Dire Wolf Heavy Scout Titan - Reaver Battle Titan
Warbringer Nemesis Titan - Warlord Battle Titan - Warmaster Heavy Battle Titan - Emperor Battle Titan
Forces of the Imperial Guard
Command: Commissar - Enginseer - Imperial Guard Command Squad - Lord Solar
Ministorum Priest - Primaris Psyker - Regimental Advisors - Tank Commander
Troops: Armoured Fist Squad - Breacher Squad - Infantry Squad - Field Chiurgeon
Heavy Weapons Squad - Militarum Veteran Squad - Ogryn Squad - Penal Legion
Psyker Battle Squad - Ratling Squad - Rough Rider Squad - Scout Squad
Sharpshooter - Special Weapons Squad - Stormtrooper - Servo-skull
(Data Skull - Guardian-skull - Monotask-skull - Servo Commissar-skull)
Whiteshield Conscript
Structures: Aegis Defence Line - Aquila Strongpoint - Firestorm Redoubt - Fortress of Redemption
Imperial Bastion - Imperial Bunker - Imperial Defence Line - Imperial Fortress Walls
Plasma Obliterator Platform - Primus Redoubt - Sabre Weapons Battery
Skyshield Landing Pad - Tarantula Sentry Gun - Vengeance Weapon Battery
Void Shield Generator
Transports: Aurox Armoured Transport - Chimera - Crassus Armored Assault Transport
Gorgon Armored Assault Transport - Hades Breaching Drill - Hellbore
Mole - Taurox - Termite - Testudo - Trojan Support Vehicle - Pegasus AAV
Light Vehicles: Atlas Recovery Tank - Bike Squad - Bane Wolf - Cargo-8 Ridgehauler
Centaur Utility Vehicle - Cyclops Demolition Vehicle - Devil Dog
Field Ordnance Battery - Hellhound - Land Crawler - Scylla
Salamander Reconnaissance Tank - Sentinel - Siegfried
Robot Crawler - Tauros - Venator - Pegasus AFV
Tanks & Ordnance: Basilisk Artillery Gun - Carnodon - Colossus Bombard - Deathstrike Missile Launcher
Griffon Heavy Mortar Carrier - Heavy Quad-Launcher - Hydra Flak Tank
Leman Russ Battle Tank - Manticore Launcher Tank - Medusa Siege Gun
Ragnarok - Rogal Dorn Battle Tank - Wyvern Suppression Tank
Superheavy Vehicles: Baneblade - Capitol Imperialis - Leviathan - Macharius Heavy Tank
Malcador Heavy Tank
Special Vehicles: Fortress of Arrogance
Flyers & Bombers: Avenger Strike Fighter - Lightning Fighter - Marauder Bomber
Thunderbolt Fighter - Valkyrie - Vendetta - Vulture - Chiropteran Scout
Spacecraft: Devourer Dropship - Galaxy Troop Ship - Tetrarch Heavy Lander