List of Mary Sues

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There are too fucking many Mary Sues in our games and fiction. We know it, and we love to complain about it, because it makes us feel a little better to call a spade a shovel.

(Note: please post Mary Sues in alphabetical order, so they don't fight about who's the better Mary-Sue. Also, this is about fictional characters, so while Canon Sues are acceptable, no real-life examples. For the sake of peace, religious figures [and possibly mythological characters; particularly when they're from original mythologies] are real-life examples).

  • Alice from the in-name-only "Resident Evil" movies. A character created for the movies, she has superpowers and is presented as ENTIRELY invincible. She manages to becomes an even bigger Sue when she loses said superpowers yet continues to obliterate armies unscathed. The film refuses to even let other characters do anything but get rescued by her, she's worse than characters written by Mathew Ward. The bitch is played by the director's wife; she's his perfect Mary Sue waifu insert and she's literally sleeping with him to get the job. Don't forget that she dual-wields katanas. And shotguns. And probably Desert Eagles, too.
  • Alucard from Hellsing Ultimate (Not that prissy shit of an anime series), but we don't really care due to copious amounts of blood and gore. Actually, he's one of the only people on this list with a logical premise for his Mary Sue-ness, well, as logical as super vampires that kill cities for a snack goes.
  • Andrew "Ender" Wiggin from Orson Scott Card's Enderverse, and a very blatant (almost comical to a serious reader) example at that. What's worse: he only becomes more of this as the story and the books progress.
    • On that note, Valentine Wiggin, Ender's sister, who is only overshadowed by her obnoxious, sociopathic brothers. Also has the distinction of being a self righteous prig.
  • Every author self-insert. Especially those found in high-school writing assignments.
  • All Angry Marines, done on purpose for lulz (hypocritical mary sues). Mostly because you can't beat them and they are the every fa/tg/uy.
  • Archaon, as he only loses to due Grimgor interrupting at the last minute. The campaign results not playing a role in Storm of Chaos can be forgiven because if Games Workshop used them like they said they would, the Hordes of Chaos would have been slaughtered before they even reached the Empire.
  • Ahsoka Tano, from Star Wars the clone wars. She is a reckless and headstrong Jedi padawan who ALWAYS makes some kind of mistake. This would normally make for a good complex character, if not for the fact that she ALWAYS learns some valuable lesson and completely make up for it. She has broken the Jedi code a few times, and has cost the lives of the clones under her command because of her recklessness. This completely turns around later on where she is shown to have matured, rarely making mistakes and instead becomes something of a mentor to younger characters she encounters.
  • Ash Ketchum, from the Pokémon franchise most of the time, though he started off as one. Sees a legendary Pokémon on his first day as a trainer (said Pokémon is a Legendary one most go their whole lives without seeing and don't know exists; also trainers who see it are marked for greatness). Meets Pokémon gym master Brock who looks after his younger brothers; yet Brock promptly abandons his job and family just to follow Ash around. Before this he met a girl called Misty, stole her bike and got it destroyed. She decides to follow him to make sure he repays her for the bike. This never happens. Instead Misty forgives the debt and falls in love with him, with no reason for either given in the story. This is without going into his ridiculous amount of luck in the story, which is evidence of heavy plot armour. (It should be noted though for all his Mary Sue traits he has never won a pokemon league championship, since his show is milked to the point of being dead as Post-heresy God-Emperor of Mankind)
  • Batman, depending the writer, usually if it's one of his fanboys, such as what Frank Miller has descended into.
  • The Blaz Ravens, for comedic effect.
  • Bella
  • Cato Sicarius. Seriously this guy is mary sue's mary sue. He was born to a noble house on Talassar, trained with a sword as soon as he could hold one, inducted into the Ultramarines. He got commendation after commendation going from sergeant to company champion to Captain of the 2nd Company in several decades. He refined lightning assaults to near perfection and knows what to do after giving the battlefields a quick glance. He leads a company of miny sues, each squad having some title for some great feat; their devastators having destroyed a titan, and a tactical squad that hasn't taken a casualty in close to 100 years. He is not only captain of the 2nd but "Master of the Watch", "Knight Champion of Macragge", "Grand Duke of Talassar", and "High Suzerain of Ultramar", seriously those last two titles are completely made up. He's a complete dick, valuing glory for himself and his company over all else, admitting to his men that he didn't care about planet Damnos when they were battling the necrons over it(where he got his ass handed to him by a noname Necron Lord). He also decided to appoint himself judge, jury, and executioner, to judge Uriel Ventris when he broke from the codex, even though they're the same rank and only the chapter master has the right to do stuff like that. Oh yeah that reminds me, to top it all off most of the chapter thinks he's next in line to be chapter master, instead of Captain Agemman of the first company, even though he's got much(see fucktons) more experience then Sicarius. Add all that to the mary sueness of being a space marine and being in the Ultramarines and it reaches critical levels.
  • C'tan (They're Gods though, so they have an excuse Nope. They're Pokémons.)
  • ALL Chakats! The entire fucking race are distilled and purified Mary Sues, sometimes warping stories they are even mentioned in passisng. Not just feline-centaur dick-girls(Sick Fucks), they're also each master psionicists with faster-than-light mind-reading, able to cure deep neurotic complexes with a good deep dickin', strongest and most stable form of 'Taurs', considered as the most "beautiful thing in the universe" despite looking exactly like lions with the fact that they have dicks, morally perfect to the extreme, nobody technically hates them, their breast milk can turn the most feeble human into mini-Arnold Schwarzeneggers and every non-Chakats seem to have a unnatural and unhealthy lifestyle on trying to "Do it" with them. Despite the fact that there are hundreds of other Catgirls outside of this furfag heresy, that are more attractive, cuter and prettier then them with the added benefit that they are actually female, not hermaphrodite abominations.
  • Chris Thorndyke
  • Cordell Walker from Walker Texas Ranger (the source of all the Chuck-Norris jokes), but he's actually eh pretty cool guy.
  • Creed, because he goes from being a homeless orphan in a ruined town to military commander of Cadia (a vital fortress world) within a few decades. Going by his character description and fluff he doesn't have any flaws, he's never made any mistakes, and none of his plans have failed (even Matt Ward let his pet Ultrasmurfs lose once). Also, crunch-wise, he's a human not even one hundred years old yet he's a better tactician than beings many times older, more powerful and more experienced than him (such as centuries-old Eldar Autarchs and Space Marine Captains, or millennia-old Dark Eldar Archons and Necron Overlords). He even beat Tzeentch in a game of chess.
  • Divis Mal
  • Dr. Doom, depending on the writer. Worst case is he's written by somebody that forgets that he's a VILLAIN and depicts his rule over Latveria as unrealistically benign and it make look like the superheroes are wrong for trying to keep him from taking over the world.
  • Drizzt .(Deep down inside, you know it's true)
  • Edward
  • Eldrad, and what's worse: he knows he is, and is a complete dick about it.
  • Elves, especially their heroes. Though the evil varieties of elves are an exception.
  • Elminster Aumar (Forgotten Realms), who despite being unbelievably old and looking it, is having a threesome with his adoptive albino elf-daughter chick and the living goddess of magic right now, possibly while beating Bane in a sword fight with one hand and Bhaal in a magic fight with the other.
  • Ember Storm
  • Eragon, from the Inheritance novels. Originally written to be the author's self insert, he ended up as his own character; a sociopathic, whiny, medieval rip-off of Luke Skywalker. Within two months he becomes a near unstoppable swordsman and learns how to read and write. Many times he accomplishes near-impossible things with magic (the worst case being when he discovers the long-lost true name of the magic language and uses it to rewrite the laws of magic). By the end of the second book he's pretty much a Jedi-elf. He swears that he won't kill if he has the choice, and won't abuse his power, only to turn around and do both. Especially when he uses magic to make his cousin's fiancee's father Sloan forcibly walk from one side of the country to the other, never see his daughter again (NOTE: she is the only thing in the world he loves), and be trapped in the elven forest until Eragon thinks he's made up for his past dickishness (despite the fact that Eragon had no right to appoint himself judge, jury and executioner over Sloan since Sloan's treachery only directly affected other people). Also, Sloan was half starved from being incarcerated, clothed in rags and fucking blind from having his eyes pecked out of his head. Despite Eragon's flaws and abuse of power, nearly everyone in the story loves him; the few characters that don't are portrayed negatively and/or something terrible happens to them.
    • On that note, the character of Angela, who is such a blatant self-insert of the author's sister, she even shares the same name.
  • Godzilla, depending on the movie.
  • Golden Aquilas, also done on purpose for lulz.
  • Green Lantern, especially Hal Jordan. All the Human Green Lanterns are regularly shown to be the best Lanterns in the core because they ALL have either, indomitable willpower, skill, and courage, surpassing others who have been in the core for decades. Most other lanterns, exist only to be killed off as a means of showing how dangerous a threat is. They're only ever effective when they are helping the Human ones.
  • Grimgor Ironhide. He never loses, and if he does, any defeats he has are rendered non-canon. Plus HE causes Archeon's defeat and not of characters arranged against him.
  • Harry Potter. Just... Harry Potter.
  • Hoah from Shaman King. If there is any villain that can truly be called a Mary Sue, it's him, most other villains with this accusation still get defeated. Hoah not only proves invincible throughout the whole series, able to easily pull of feats that are impossible for everybody else, he also has the ability to revive himself if killed, meaning even the heroes beat him, which they state is impossible in a straight-up fight, it would be pointless, because he'd just back even stronger. The writer couldn't think of way to defeat him, so he instead makes a last minute turn towards good, getting away with a number of atrocities that would make numerous the Warriors Of Chaos jealous.
  • Humanity; in some, but not all, sci-fi or fantasy settings. Humans are either the dominant race or become the dominant race regardless of their abilities compared to others. In addition, they are always the POV of the story even if intelligent non-human races exist (NOTE: Skilled authors can do the POV of a non-human character without humanizing them too much) or the protagonists who only win because they're the favorite character/faction of the story's creators. Finally, the hero ultimately responsible for saving the day is always a human.
  • IG-88 in the Star Wars expanded universe, arguably a parody of the idea, given that he easily breaks into the second Death Star and uploads his personality into it and takes control with nobody noticing, then gets blown up with the Death Star and nobody remembers him.
  • Jacob.
  • Jean Luc Picard (Not that anyone cares).
  • Jedi erratically jump around the Mary Sue meter depending on the author. While not all Mary Sues, Jedi characters always have the potential to become one. The usual Mary-Sue reality-warping is actually one of their well-known abilities, from "subtly" changing the minds of people around them, to Jedi who use their quasi-Taoist powers to manipulate fate and fortune of entire battles, or generations of families.
  • James Bond. To what degree varies, but the Roger Moore version is the worst offender; he's unbeatable at just about everything, a ladies-man to an unrealistic degree, implausibly intelligent, a crack shot, and basically unkillable.
  • Capt. Janeway of the starship Voyager. She was always presented as being right in every situation and gets away with a number of atrocities that surpass many of Star Trek's villains.
  • Jigsaw from the Saw films. Pick any character you think of with long list of skills or attributes, this guy has more, and he keeps getting away for a half dozen movies.
  • Kaldor Draigo. Two simple words: Matt fucking Ward.
  • Kalecgos (AKA Kalec), blue dragon who can disguise himself as a human-elf hybrid; from World of Warcrabs. Ham-fistedly inserted into the Blood Elves' redemption story arc as an enabler. Later he takes over the blue dragonflight even though he's not the oldest, wisest or most powerful blue dragon. Later he hooks up with a Jaina Proudmoore, a powerful human mage/noblewoman/faction leader introduced in Warcraft III. She does this in spite of their vast age difference (which was the reason Jaina rejected an Elven prince who loved her).
  • Kenshiro, nothing can kill him and he's morally flawless, superior to everyone-fucking-else. At least until Shin Sagain the anime, where he starts fucking up often, even with his super kung-fu laser ninja powers. Most battles are curb-stomps until later on because it's a fucking show from the 80s. Note, however, that Kenshiro loses a lot, especially later on, and mostly wins his hardest battles because he's the only one worth a shit left alive by that point in the series.
  • Kharn, though he'd be an even bigger one if he actually had any impact on the plot, but is still a pretty swell guy.
  • Kratos : Yeah, he's a Mary Sue. He curb-stomps fucking gods due to plot armor (and because one of them decided to give a bloody psychopath god powers; Mensa applicant right there) and he has threesomes with complete strangers, even though he is meant to be grieving for the death of his family that he murdered himself. Oh and the rules for how death works change whenever it's convenient for him.
  • Kvothe/Kote from Ultimate Neckbeard Patrick Rothfuss
  • The Light from the Young Justice cartoon adaption. They can only lose if the plot requires it, and the number of times that happens can be counted on one hand. Plus they're boring.
  • Lightning from Final Fantasy 13, she is basically a pink-haired Cloud without any of Cloud's likable personality traits. She's currently the NEW AND ASTONISHING HEAVENLY Valkyrie that fights a purple Sephiroth in her new game "Lightning's Return". Not that we care, but she was created by Motomu Toriyama, a man with a Chris-Chan-like persona and Matthew Ward style writing who is now continuously raping the franchise. He has a waifu love for Lightning like Paul has for Alice. Lightning is comparable to Alice on many levels, which says a lot, really.
  • Lisa Simpson. Throughout the series, she is the only consistently intelligent person in Springfield and is never allowed to be completely wrong. Two of the biggest examples were single-handedly persuading the IOC to hold the Olympics (THE OLYMPICS!) in Springfield, and was once deferred to over STEPHEN HAWKING (who is famous for being one of the world's smartest people irl). In over 300 episodes there have been very few episodes where she has done something wrong, and she has never been punished for any of those things. In addition, she is something of an author avatar for Matt Groening, the creator of the Simpsons. Matt (not this one though, ironically, they share the same first name) even admitted that Lisa is his favorite character, and that he would do anything to prevent her from looking bad.
  • Maka from the Soul Eater anime series. The fucktards at Bonez though it was a good idea to do the same thing they had done with Full Metal Alchemist, changing the storyline for the anime series, making Maka possessed weapon soul when fighting Kishin, even finish off Kishin with a single punch of courage bullshit. Such a damn shame since the series animation was so well done.
  • Many famous comic book superheroes under the wrong writer, Batman and Wolverine probably being the worst offenders.
  • The Mandalorians in the Star Wars Expanded Universe, depending whose writing them. While good under the correct writers, under some of the bad ones (Hint, it involves Karen fucking Traviss), they compete with badly written expanded universe Jedi and Sith for the position of Star Wars' Ultrasmurfs. In the expanded universe ALL mandos are elite warrior mercenaries, skilled enough to take out armed enemies with their bare hands and usually packing enough fire power to level a building. They're so badass in fact that they're known to hunt Jedi for fucking sport because they're the only thing that'll give'm a real challenge. Experienced jedi hunters can be good enough to fight them head on despite all their force powers and saber swinging because they have the right gear and experience to counter it. Bear in mind that Mandos do not use the force in anyway.
  • Marneus Calgar, especially post-Ward.
  • Master Chief is definitely one, he has Ward-grade plot armour. Seriously, it was repeated throughout the games that he was born with the word LUCK.
  • Captain Matthias Ward, I am the better Mary-Sue.
  • Med'an from World of Warcrack. Part-Human, part-Orc and part-Draenei, inheritor of the greatest level of power among Azeroth's mages, even beyond (-)any(-) High Elf mage. Also related to several lore characters in one way or another.
  • Mordenkainen (Gary Gygax's personal avatar in the Greyhawk setting and a level 30 wizard who never fucking ages past 50 despite being a hundred fucking years old without turning into a lich, he became bald for some reason, which makes him look evil, but he remains stupid neutral).
  • Most of the villains in Old World of Darkness. The writers didn't even try to hide that they favored them over the players.
  • Mister Popo in Dragon Ball Z Abridged, though he's that on purpose.
  • All Na'vi
  • Optimus Prime. not like we care, he's still awesome as fuck.
  • The Primarchs and their daughters.THOSE WORDS ARE BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!! /tg/ can only create perfection!
  • Rhonin, archmage of the Kirin Tor, World of Warcrap. (Another Richard Knaak creator's pet. Obviously Richard Knaak is to Warcraft what Matt Ward is to Warhammer, though he has women in his setting's canon fall for his characters rather than Ward's sexist snuff).
  • Starkiller, AKA Galen Marek, the MC of the Force Unleashed Star Wars game. Mastered the Dark Side, mastered the Light Side, finished off the Jedi, defeated Vader, defeated the Emperor, met Yoda, rescued Leia, formed the Alliance, even used his bullshit cheesy force power to bring down a Star Destroyer. Give me a break.
  • Selene, from the 'Underworld' movies. Throughout the series, she bears several similarities to Alice; both are experts with weapons, both have superior biology to their respective species (humans for Alice, Vampires for Selene), both kill their way through swarms of enemies without getting a scratch, both have little regard for their source material, and both are played by the wives of the directors of their respective film series.
  • Sith from Star Wars EU will also tend to jump around on the Mary Sue meter, ranging from them dying by the dozen to being walking pillars of RAGE, especially if it's that faggot Sith Emperor from TOR, whose so bullshit powerful the guy you kill in the storyline is just one of his vessels. What a dick. Those sith who dont die like red shirts, are usually so powerful that the only reason the good guys ever win is that they inevitably turn against each other, allowing them to win. As with Jedi, not all Sith are Mary Sues but all have the potential to become ones. A notable case of a "Mary Sith" was Darth Bane. Starting out a miner on a back water planet he joined the Sith army where his force abilities were discovered, and after training for a few months and learning from a holocron became an unstoppable sith who destroyed the existing sith and layed the ground work for the eventual destruction of the Jedi.
  • Space Marines of the Imperium in Warhammer40K (especially under certain writers). You know it's true. However, there are some exceptions who are awesome enough to get a pass. The reasons: just look at the favouritism they get from Games Workshop in both the fluff and the crunch (They always either win or get the "moral victory", they're the easiest army to use, they're updated the most, etc...)
  • Superman. He is morally perfect, one of the strongest beings in the DC universe, and his one weakness that's supposed to kill him never works ex: he lifts an entire continent of kryptonite after being stabbed by a dagger made of it. The only way to nerf him is to have Batman beside him, because Superman always becomes a dumbass when Batman is around (go watch DCAU Justice League to see for yourself).
  • Most 13 year-olds' RPG characters.
  • Richard, from the Sword of Truth series (he's not as bad in the TV series)
  • Thrall, an Orc raised in a human internment camp, became Azeroth's premiere shaman and leader of half the world. World of Warcramps. Even people that were fans of him during Warcraft III have started to get sick of him.
  • The Unholy, a half-crow cowgirl in Vampire: The Requiem
  • Uriel Ventris - despite initially coming off as a subversion of Wardian Ultramarines-are-the-best Mary Sue bullshit, he quickly devolves into Ultramarines are the worst unless they use the Codex to wipe their asses and act like Space Wolves - which is pretty much limited to - guess who? - McNeill's OC-Do-Not-Steal Special Snowflake Ventris.
  • Varian Wrynn, King of Stormwind and leader of the alliance, from World of Warcock, is showing signs of becoming one. The signs are, first, his flaws are disappearing (or being blamed on a split personality) Other, more established, canon characters are being developed for the worse (such as Jaina and Tyrande. NOTE; they're also two of Warcraft's few major female characters) to try and make him look better. He's chosen as a champion of a powerful demigod even though there are many other better candidates such as MOST Night Elves. Finally, even though he's been a racist warmonger almost as much as Garrosh (who's set to be the final boss of the latest expansion) there are no signs that he'll be called out or face any negative consequences for this.
  • Wesley Crusher. Originating from the same franchise as the original Mary Sue, Wesley is a very young ensign training to be an officer in star fleet, where he's earned the admiration of many of the bridge officers. He became something of a protege to Captain Picard, who was impressed by Wesley after he showed that he had learned all the controls at the captain's chair when they first met. While not morally perfect or incorruptible Wesley is as close as he can be in most cases. Many people thought that he was an insufferable little shit, amongst them Wil Wheaton (the actor who PLAYED the guy).
  • Any White Wolf employee that shows up at a Vampire LARP session is automatically playing a millennia-old demigod vamp. (I wish I was exaggerating; they've waded into living-city LARP games as antediluvians and permanently killed people's Camarilla characters.) NOTE: This gets a pass as it refers to the employee's characters.
  • Young main characters in crappy Japanese animes and manga.
  • Yuki Terumi, AKA Trollzama. The writers of BlazBlue don't even seem to be trying to leave a believable way for him to be defeated.

(More to be added later (sounds of crying editors))