BadAtMagic

What is this stuff?

BadAtMagic is a set being created by /tg/, the objective is to make 300 cards and balance them in a single set, what will be done with the set when its over, no one knows.

How do I participate?

1) Create your cards - Download Magic Set Editor and start working on a card, when you're done, export it and upload it Here, then, remember the filename you gave it and type File:(filenamehere.jpg) with two [[]] in between.

2) Criticize/Shit on other cards - Making your cards is not everything, considering this is /tg/ we're talking about here, 9 out of 10 cards in this page will be shit, and everyone knows it. So, feel free to talk about cards below their images, about either how good they are or how bad they are. Discussion about all cards is important, remember, a bad card you don't shit on might make it to the set. And a good card you don't talk about might be ignored.

3) Discuss on /tg/ - This is just a Point of Reference for discussions over at /tg/, if you're interested in this, remember to make threads about the Set, both to gather more people to the project and to have easier discussions about certain cards over there.

Information on the Set

This set is a Pirate Themed Set, not much about the story itself is known, so just go hog wild with piracy.

Feel free to use any Mechanic you wish, even ones that don't exist already, but remember, if they're shit, you'll be called on.

At the end, there will be 40 cards for each Color, including Gold (Multi-Color). Furthermore, there will be 60 Colorless Cards.

In each 40-card category (White, Black, Red, Green, Blue, Gold), there will be 2 Mythic Cards, 6 Rare Cards, 12 Uncommon Cards and 20 Common Cards

Regarding the 60-card category (Colorless), there will be 3 Mythic Cards, 9 Rare Cards, 18 Uncommon Cards and 30 Common Cards.

Another thing to take into account is that, for the total 300 Cards, 150 of them will be Creatures, 40 will be Sorceries, 35 will be Instants, 30 will be Enchantments/Auras/Curses, 20 will be Artifacts and 25 will be Lands (Including the 5 Basic Lands)

Mechanic Concepts

Color Identity

Okay, so far there seems to be no opposition to the concept of Green snake islanders and the monsters they live with. Any other comments on that?

Pirates: What fucking color? Black seems like an obvious choice. Greedy, selfish, willing to cut your throat for gold. Also could include the obligatory ghost ships etc. Red seems like a good one too. No one does burn and plunder like red. Red is notoriously destructive and tends to tell law/order to fuck off, which fits pirates well.

I do remember someone suggesting that we do pirates in all colors. Thoughts on that?

Mechanic Suggestions

Plunder seems like a great name, so what do we have it do? Possible suggestions:

-Plunder <cost>: <Effect> (If a creature you control dealt damage to a player this turn, you may pay <cost> and do <effect>. Use only once a turn?) Note that this is flexible enough to go on both high cost and low cost creatures. The flexible mechanic leaves LOTS of design space.

Card Concepts

ATTENTION: EVEN THOUGH THERE WILL ONLY BE A X NUMBER OF CARDS IN EACH CATEGORY WHEN THE SET IS DONE, YOU ARE FREE TO PUT AS MANY CARDS AS YOU WANT IN EACH CATEGORY

White

Mythic

Rare

Uncommon

Common

Black

Mythic

WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS. Cool art though.

I can't think of any way to make it less wordy. I like the abilities, but what could some changes be that kept its flavor. It's analogous to Davy Jones, sort of.

One could try designing bottom up or at least a far less slavish version of top down (ala Innistrad). Or designing with a cohesive set goal in mind, but god knows that's asking too much of /tg/.

Rare

Why is this a colored artifact?

It seemed like a good Idea at the time, my logic was that a ship being a made thing should be an Artifact, I'll change it

Uncommon

Common

Red

Mythic

Rare

Take the lasy bit about the myth being false out of the flavor text. The card is it's own punchline.

-I disagree, the last bit fits. Though I don't really think we need to be shitting out cycles of huge rares or that a Kraken cycle is a good idea.

-I tried it without the last bit. And anyway, I figured what we were going for was "shit out as many cards as we can, and we can sort through which ones are worth keeping later."

-I don't understand why people with this mentality would even want to try building a set. Why not just make a thread like "POST PIRATE CARDS" and go fucking crazy? A set is way more intricate and complex than a bunch of random cards. There's no point in designing without a goal, and seeing /tg/ flailing around like this is somewhat frustrating.

-It wasn't random. I thought krakens made a nice antagonist for a pirate setting, so I thought it would be neat if they had representation across all colors. There will come a point where we're looking at exact numbers of cards for which roles, and that's when we'll be able to pick from a big pool of these cards that have been created.

-I know that Krakens weren't random. My statement is a lot more general than this specific card, it applies to tons of things that have just been dumped on this page (and even more so in the now-deleted thread [are we making a new one?]). The point is we don't have a goal to design towards, we don't have guidelines for a design (like fluff or mechanical identities for colors). Because of this, one of two things will happen: 90% of our shit will get thrown out because it doesn't fit those guidelines when they are eventually developed and we'll be right back at square 1 (but this time with guidelines), or our set will be an incoherent piece of shit. It doesn't matter how many pieces we have if they're not from the same puzzle.

-We don't have to throw it all out. We can still salvage some general mechanic ideas, artwork, flavor, etc. We're in the brainstorming stage, and personally I'm brainstorming by making cards, which isn't that much effort. And yeah, I don't know what happened to the OP of the thread, but I'm guessing there will be a new one at some point.

Uncommon

Common

Suggestions for flavortext would be nice. I can't think of anything. It's an enchantment that makes things big.

Green

Mythic

Rare

Uncommon

Common

Blue

Mythic

Rare

Uncommon

GO BACK TO URZA'S SAGA AND STAY THERE

Common

(This is a reprint)

Love the reprint. Not sure about the flavor text, but it's passable.

I like the idea of the mirrored auras, but I think they need a bit more thought put into them. +x/+0 is not very blue. Also maybe a full cycle?

Gold (Multi-Color)

Mythic

Rare

Needs flavor text. Debating changing to a soldier. That way we don't have too many new creature types.

Uncommon

Common

Colorless

Mythic

Rare

And now we have random cumulative upkeep effects. /tg/, are you even trying?

-It makes sense to me. It has tentacles. They tap things. Leave it out for longer, and they tap more things. Leave it out for too long, and they run out of juice.

-Maybe it makes sense on that specific card, but we're not building cards, we're building a set...

-Pretty sure cumulative upkeep is still evergreen.

Uncommon

Seems very out of place.

Needs flavortext about it drifting on its own or something.

Decent concept. Feels like it should be black, though, why artifact?

Needs some flavortext about pirates finding it but not being able to lift it up. I'm not a good writer.

It has no mana cost. Plus, it'd just be an awful idea to print this card. 'lolunkillable' does not a good card/fun make.

-It can be killed with -1/-1 counters, exiled, or bounced back to its owner's hand, as long as it's not targeted.

-Global variants of those things are pretty fucking hard to come by. Can you imagine how stupid this thing would be in draft? Maybe unkillable might be cool in concept, but do you really think it'd be fun to play with?

-It's pretty much worthless in draft unless someone is lucky enough to be able to force it onto the battlefield somehow.

-Okay why would you even include an uncastable card in the set? Let alone an UNCOMMMON one? Yes I know that there are ways it can be put into play, but seriously the fuck? Besides, this shit is nothing but unfun if someone manages to get it on the field. The more I think about this card the more shit it seems.

-It's for people who like weird cards that are hard to use. The Johnnys out there. Wizards always panders to them in some weird way. Look at One with Nothing. The reason it's uncommon is so that it doesn't show up too often, and it's not rare, because it would piss most people off getting that as their rare.

-One with Nothing was a rare, not an uncommon. It was also not this retarded. I'm fine with Johnny cards, but this is just obnoxious at best.

Common