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*'''Cannoness''' - A solid choice, but you need to gear her up pretty heavily to make her really shine. Don't even bother if you're not going to shell out on at least a book of saint lucius, cloak of saint aspira, and blessed weapon. Better yet give her a jump pack and an Eviscerator/Inferno Pistol and send her tank hunting, its not like anybody else in your army is getting that shit done. | *'''Cannoness''' - A solid choice, but you need to gear her up pretty heavily to make her really shine. Don't even bother if you're not going to shell out on at least a book of saint lucius, cloak of saint aspira, and blessed weapon. Better yet give her a jump pack and an Eviscerator/Inferno Pistol and send her tank hunting, its not like anybody else in your army is getting that shit done. | ||
*'''Palatine''' - Seriously, forget what I just said and field a stripped Cannoness before this. There is almost never a good reason to field her no matter how small the game is. | *'''Palatine''' - Seriously, forget what I just said and field a stripped Cannoness before this. There is almost never a good reason to field her no matter how small the game is. | ||
*'''Inquisitor Lord''' - A versatile HQ choice that | *'''Inquisitor Lord''' - A versatile HQ choice that almost never stacks up to a good Cannoness. Best taken with a psychic hood against opponents fielding psykers, otherwise pass on him. Psychic powers are overpriced bullshit in an army that rarely lacks bullshit. If you want assassins just take him as an elite choice instead. | ||
*'''Priests''' - Not an HQ choice per se, but instead attach to your other units. Great for taking away your sisters' rapid fire rule as well as for getting them killed in charges. Also gives you access to a bunch of units you probably didn't want anyhow. If you absolutely have to take one attach him to a squad of zealots with an eviscerator. | |||
The following are special characters: | The following are special characters: | ||
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*'''Saint Celestine''' - Basically a much more expensive jump pack Cannoness with some special rules. Dubiously worth the points and eats faith on death. If you really must put her with a seraphim squad and go push somebody's shit in. | *'''Saint Celestine''' - Basically a much more expensive jump pack Cannoness with some special rules. Dubiously worth the points and eats faith on death. If you really must put her with a seraphim squad and go push somebody's shit in. | ||
===Elite=== | ===Elite=== | ||
*'''Arco-Flagellants''' - Not horrible, but their inability to generate faith, need of a priest to deploy, and their worrying habit of OD'ing in combat makes them less than attractive. If you're going | *'''Arco-Flagellants''' - Not horrible, but their inability to generate faith, need of a priest to deploy, and their worrying habit of OD'ing in combat makes them less than attractive. If you're going mechanized you can safely ignore these guys. | ||
*'''Assassin''' - Stupid bullshit units that require a stupid bullshit HQ choice (Inquisitor) to use. Pass. | *'''Assassin''' - Stupid bullshit units that require a stupid bullshit HQ choice (Inquisitor) to use. Pass. | ||
**'''Callidus''' - The only assassin that will routinely justify its point cost. Can usually be counted on to cause enough combined dickery and pain to see use in take all comers army lists. Yes "A word in your ear" is as fun as it sounds. | **'''Callidus''' - The only assassin that will routinely justify its point cost. Can usually be counted on to cause enough combined dickery and pain to see use in take all comers army lists. Yes "A word in your ear" is as fun as it sounds. | ||
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**'''Eversor''' - Good for infiltrating and tying up units, but you'd still be better off with a callidus. At least their stupid bullshit is hilarious when it works. I hope you like dice. | **'''Eversor''' - Good for infiltrating and tying up units, but you'd still be better off with a callidus. At least their stupid bullshit is hilarious when it works. I hope you like dice. | ||
**'''Vindicare''' - Horrible. Will never see enough action to justify his points, and thats only if he doesn't die like a bitch. | **'''Vindicare''' - Horrible. Will never see enough action to justify his points, and thats only if he doesn't die like a bitch. | ||
*'''Celestian Squad''' - A deceptively mediocre always faithful unit. To really make use of its close combat potential you need to shell out a lot of points, and by the time your sister superior has that eviscerator in hand its already not worth it. Stick to seraphim. | *'''Celestian Squad''' - A deceptively mediocre always faithful unit. To really make use of its close combat potential you need to shell out a lot of points, and by the time your venerable sister superior has that eviscerator in hand its already not worth it. Add to this that always faithful means they can't use martyrdom and its strictly meh. Stick to seraphim. | ||
*'''Death-Cult Assassins''' - Decent Counter-assault units in groups, but still inferior. Take a faithful unit instead. | *'''Death-Cult Assassins''' - Decent Counter-assault units in groups, but still inferior. Take a faithful unit instead. | ||
*'''Inquisitor''' - Much more cost effective than taking the inquisitor lord, but thats not saying a whole lot. Previous bitching still stands. | *'''Inquisitor''' - Much more cost effective than taking the inquisitor lord, but thats not saying a whole lot. Previous bitching still stands. | ||
*'''Sisters | *'''Sisters Repentia''' - Sweet emperor why? Bad speed, bad initiative, uncontrollable, can't use transports, ''6-9 points each''? For masochists only, you'll be feeding the enemy victory points for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. | ||
===Dedicated Transports==== | |||
*'''Chimera''' - The chimera is only a choice for storm troopers, and you shouldn't be taking storm troopers, therefor you shouldn't be taking this. | |||
*'''Rhino''' - Now we're talking. Cheap, hard, and since your units are 3+ they don't count as open topped when firing. Load up the sisters and head for the front lines. Extra vehicle armor and smoke launchers are mandatory. No exceptions. | |||
*'''Land Raider''' - Where in the hell would you even take your inquisitor lord? Anybody spending points on this deserves to get purged. | |||
===Troop=== | ===Troop=== | ||
*'''Battle Sisters Squad''' - 11 points for | *'''Battle Sisters Squad''' - 11 points for 3+ saves, bolters, and faith? Yes please. These will form the base of any competitive army. Mount them up with a flamer/melta to take the fight to the enemy quickly. ALWAYS upgrade to venerable sister superiors. Without faith you're just a retarded space marine army knockoff. Oh and if you're foot slogging it what the hell, storm bolters for everybody. | ||
*'''Inquisitorial Storm Troopers''' - Its 1 whole point to trade up from glory boys to bolter bitches, what the hell is wrong with you? If you feel the overpowering need to field these with chimeras you should go back to playing guard. | *'''Inquisitorial Storm Troopers''' - Its 1 whole point to trade up from glory boys to bolter bitches, what the hell is wrong with you? If you feel the overpowering need to field these with chimeras you should go back to playing guard. Oh, and the adeptas arbites versions drop their hellguns for shotguns, just in case they were too useful for you. | ||
*'''Zealots (Chapter Approved)''' Some good close combat fighters that can re-roll on charge and take negative morale modifiers as positive ones. Essentially serve as an excuse to use a priest (and they are the ''only'' excuse). Still they aren't faithful and don't get dedicated transports, so they're best kept clear of a mechanized army list. | |||
===Fast Attack=== | ===Fast Attack=== | ||
*'''Dominion Squad''' - Basically a sisters squad with some overpriced shiny bits. | *'''Dominion Squad''' - Basically a sisters squad with some overpriced shiny bits. Four meltas/flamers makes for a deadly combination, but its rarely worth it. Save your points, moving on. | ||
*'''Seraphim Squad''' - Fuck yes. This is your army's surgical strike ability. | *'''Seraphim Squad''' - Fuck yes. This is your army's surgical strike ability. Be sure to upgrade to a venerable sister superior with a simulacrum imperialis, you'll be using a '''LOT''' of faith with these girls. Shell out the points for twin linked hand flamers and an eviscerator to carve and bake enemy squads like a christmas goose. Or switch to inferno pistols and a force weapon to go tank hunting. Just make sure to keep the squads relatively small (6-8 units) or they'll start missing those critical faith and cover bonuses. | ||
===Heavy Support=== | ===Heavy Support=== | ||
*'''Exorcist''' - Its your only anti-tank ability beyond 12", so thank god its pure cheese. Its random damage is the only thing that keeps it from veering off into sheer game breaking awesomeness. Take three, target enemy armor, and harvest their tears. | *'''Exorcist''' - Its your only anti-tank ability beyond 12", so thank god its pure cheese. Its random damage is the only thing that keeps it from veering off into sheer game breaking awesomeness. Take three, target enemy armor, and harvest their tears. | ||
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*'''Orbital Strike''' - Congratulations, you just lost a heavy support choice. | *'''Orbital Strike''' - Congratulations, you just lost a heavy support choice. | ||
*'''Penitent Engine''' - The sisters repentia of the heavy support class. Sure it looks devastating in close combat, but with AV10, open top, and holy rage do you actually think its going to get there? | *'''Penitent Engine''' - The sisters repentia of the heavy support class. Sure it looks devastating in close combat, but with AV10, open top, and holy rage do you actually think its going to get there? | ||
*'''Retributor Squad''' - | *'''Retributor Squad''' - A solid choice when outfitted with 4 heavy bolters. Unfortunately it suffers from the crippling disadvantage of not being an excorcist. Not my first choice but they certainly wouldn't go amiss in the right situation. Never walk them anywhere, ever. | ||
==Building your Army== | ==Building your Army== | ||
You basically have 3 choices. | |||
===Mechanized=== | |||
Jump pack cannoness, seraphim, excorcists, and loads of mounted SoBs with flamers or meltas. Run their asses over. | |||
===Foot Slogging=== | |||
SUDDENLY STORM BOLTERS, HUNDREDS OF THEM. Like a guard foot slogging team except all your units have 3+ saves, and bolters, and an ungodly amount of faith. Oh shit. | |||
===Inquisition Freakshow=== | |||
Admit it, you want to use eversors, Karamozov, and as many penitent engines as you can field. | |||
==Tactics== | ==Tactics== | ||
===Faith=== | |||
If you're playing a sisters heavy army (thats read: doing it right) you want to maximize your faith. Faith is what turns your mediocre space marine knock offs into versatile powerhouses capable of making the opposing player squeal like a stuck pig. Tough hero units got you down? Use hand of the emperor and watch your cannoness saw through their commander like warm butter. Sick of marine armor saves? Mass fire with divine guidance and watch their squad disappear under a volley of AP1 fire. Opponent laughing at your sororitas heroine? Pair spirit of the martyr with her cloak of saint aspira (you gave her one right?) and you've got a 2+ invulnerable save. Who's [[-4 Str]] now bitches? | |||
[[Category: Warhammer Tactics]] | [[Category: Warhammer Tactics]] | ||
Revision as of 21:57, 15 June 2010
Why Play Witch Hunters
They are nuns with guns. Bolter Bitches. Do you like AP 1 flamers? If Yes then this is the army for you. The models are pretty nice, and all pewter (if you prefer pewter models) Most importantly, you get to use "Acts of Faith" which are a lot like cheating. "oh, this turn, my bitches get to make their 3+ save invulnerable".
Unit Analysis
HQ
- Cannoness - A solid choice, but you need to gear her up pretty heavily to make her really shine. Don't even bother if you're not going to shell out on at least a book of saint lucius, cloak of saint aspira, and blessed weapon. Better yet give her a jump pack and an Eviscerator/Inferno Pistol and send her tank hunting, its not like anybody else in your army is getting that shit done.
- Palatine - Seriously, forget what I just said and field a stripped Cannoness before this. There is almost never a good reason to field her no matter how small the game is.
- Inquisitor Lord - A versatile HQ choice that almost never stacks up to a good Cannoness. Best taken with a psychic hood against opponents fielding psykers, otherwise pass on him. Psychic powers are overpriced bullshit in an army that rarely lacks bullshit. If you want assassins just take him as an elite choice instead.
- Priests - Not an HQ choice per se, but instead attach to your other units. Great for taking away your sisters' rapid fire rule as well as for getting them killed in charges. Also gives you access to a bunch of units you probably didn't want anyhow. If you absolutely have to take one attach him to a squad of zealots with an eviscerator.
The following are special characters:
- Inquisitor Lord Karamazov - The inquisition's fluffy old guy. You want an inquisitor retinue that counts as a single monstrous creature and goes around the battlefield spitting hatred and meltafire? this is your man. You want something more geared towards competitive play? I'm sure games workshop will be releasing another marine codex for you soon you fucking robot.
- Saint Celestine - Basically a much more expensive jump pack Cannoness with some special rules. Dubiously worth the points and eats faith on death. If you really must put her with a seraphim squad and go push somebody's shit in.
Elite
- Arco-Flagellants - Not horrible, but their inability to generate faith, need of a priest to deploy, and their worrying habit of OD'ing in combat makes them less than attractive. If you're going mechanized you can safely ignore these guys.
- Assassin - Stupid bullshit units that require a stupid bullshit HQ choice (Inquisitor) to use. Pass.
- Callidus - The only assassin that will routinely justify its point cost. Can usually be counted on to cause enough combined dickery and pain to see use in take all comers army lists. Yes "A word in your ear" is as fun as it sounds.
- Culexus - Again, a possible feature of a cripplingly overspecialized pysker hunting army. If you're not fucking up somebody's weaboo elf shit its a definite pass.
- Eversor - Good for infiltrating and tying up units, but you'd still be better off with a callidus. At least their stupid bullshit is hilarious when it works. I hope you like dice.
- Vindicare - Horrible. Will never see enough action to justify his points, and thats only if he doesn't die like a bitch.
- Celestian Squad - A deceptively mediocre always faithful unit. To really make use of its close combat potential you need to shell out a lot of points, and by the time your venerable sister superior has that eviscerator in hand its already not worth it. Add to this that always faithful means they can't use martyrdom and its strictly meh. Stick to seraphim.
- Death-Cult Assassins - Decent Counter-assault units in groups, but still inferior. Take a faithful unit instead.
- Inquisitor - Much more cost effective than taking the inquisitor lord, but thats not saying a whole lot. Previous bitching still stands.
- Sisters Repentia - Sweet emperor why? Bad speed, bad initiative, uncontrollable, can't use transports, 6-9 points each? For masochists only, you'll be feeding the enemy victory points for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Dedicated Transports=
- Chimera - The chimera is only a choice for storm troopers, and you shouldn't be taking storm troopers, therefor you shouldn't be taking this.
- Rhino - Now we're talking. Cheap, hard, and since your units are 3+ they don't count as open topped when firing. Load up the sisters and head for the front lines. Extra vehicle armor and smoke launchers are mandatory. No exceptions.
- Land Raider - Where in the hell would you even take your inquisitor lord? Anybody spending points on this deserves to get purged.
Troop
- Battle Sisters Squad - 11 points for 3+ saves, bolters, and faith? Yes please. These will form the base of any competitive army. Mount them up with a flamer/melta to take the fight to the enemy quickly. ALWAYS upgrade to venerable sister superiors. Without faith you're just a retarded space marine army knockoff. Oh and if you're foot slogging it what the hell, storm bolters for everybody.
- Inquisitorial Storm Troopers - Its 1 whole point to trade up from glory boys to bolter bitches, what the hell is wrong with you? If you feel the overpowering need to field these with chimeras you should go back to playing guard. Oh, and the adeptas arbites versions drop their hellguns for shotguns, just in case they were too useful for you.
- Zealots (Chapter Approved) Some good close combat fighters that can re-roll on charge and take negative morale modifiers as positive ones. Essentially serve as an excuse to use a priest (and they are the only excuse). Still they aren't faithful and don't get dedicated transports, so they're best kept clear of a mechanized army list.
Fast Attack
- Dominion Squad - Basically a sisters squad with some overpriced shiny bits. Four meltas/flamers makes for a deadly combination, but its rarely worth it. Save your points, moving on.
- Seraphim Squad - Fuck yes. This is your army's surgical strike ability. Be sure to upgrade to a venerable sister superior with a simulacrum imperialis, you'll be using a LOT of faith with these girls. Shell out the points for twin linked hand flamers and an eviscerator to carve and bake enemy squads like a christmas goose. Or switch to inferno pistols and a force weapon to go tank hunting. Just make sure to keep the squads relatively small (6-8 units) or they'll start missing those critical faith and cover bonuses.
Heavy Support
- Exorcist - Its your only anti-tank ability beyond 12", so thank god its pure cheese. Its random damage is the only thing that keeps it from veering off into sheer game breaking awesomeness. Take three, target enemy armor, and harvest their tears.
- Immolator - Your sisters need to get within 12", and emperor knows they're not getting there on foot. Still, as a transport its basically an expensive Rhino that will draw more antitank fire. Slap on vehicle armor and smoke launchers and maybe you'll get there in one piece.
- Orbital Strike - Congratulations, you just lost a heavy support choice.
- Penitent Engine - The sisters repentia of the heavy support class. Sure it looks devastating in close combat, but with AV10, open top, and holy rage do you actually think its going to get there?
- Retributor Squad - A solid choice when outfitted with 4 heavy bolters. Unfortunately it suffers from the crippling disadvantage of not being an excorcist. Not my first choice but they certainly wouldn't go amiss in the right situation. Never walk them anywhere, ever.
Building your Army
You basically have 3 choices.
Mechanized
Jump pack cannoness, seraphim, excorcists, and loads of mounted SoBs with flamers or meltas. Run their asses over.
Foot Slogging
SUDDENLY STORM BOLTERS, HUNDREDS OF THEM. Like a guard foot slogging team except all your units have 3+ saves, and bolters, and an ungodly amount of faith. Oh shit.
Inquisition Freakshow
Admit it, you want to use eversors, Karamozov, and as many penitent engines as you can field.
Tactics
Faith
If you're playing a sisters heavy army (thats read: doing it right) you want to maximize your faith. Faith is what turns your mediocre space marine knock offs into versatile powerhouses capable of making the opposing player squeal like a stuck pig. Tough hero units got you down? Use hand of the emperor and watch your cannoness saw through their commander like warm butter. Sick of marine armor saves? Mass fire with divine guidance and watch their squad disappear under a volley of AP1 fire. Opponent laughing at your sororitas heroine? Pair spirit of the martyr with her cloak of saint aspira (you gave her one right?) and you've got a 2+ invulnerable save. Who's -4 Str now bitches?