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*Shock Cavalry: Your knights, cataphracts, and mounted men-at-arms. These are the hammers to your melee infantry's anvil, breaking a foe like water upon rock. Used primarily for exploiting gaps in enemy lines, charging into the rear of an unsuspecting foe, or flanking attacks. Can also go straight at anything without a spear and watch them die beneath lances and hooves. Then withdraw for another go. | *Shock Cavalry: Your knights, cataphracts, and mounted men-at-arms. These are the hammers to your melee infantry's anvil, breaking a foe like water upon rock. Used primarily for exploiting gaps in enemy lines, charging into the rear of an unsuspecting foe, or flanking attacks. Can also go straight at anything without a spear and watch them die beneath lances and hooves. Then withdraw for another go. | ||
*Artillery: Ballistae, Scorpions, Onagers/Mangonels, and Trebuchets, mostly, with the odd cannon here or there. Used mostly for smashing down some poor chap's walls, though it is also useful for flinging hate at an enemy during a field battle. | *Artillery: Ballistae, Scorpions, Onagers/Mangonels, and Trebuchets, mostly, with the odd cannon here or there. Used mostly for smashing down some poor chap's walls, though it is also useful for flinging hate at an enemy during a field battle, [[Troll|And possibly killing their leader in one shot, completely ruining the battle.]] | ||
*Siege Engines: Ladders, battering rams, and siege towers, used for getting through those pesky things called battlements. | *Siege Engines: Ladders, battering rams, and siege towers, used for getting through those pesky things called battlements. |
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Total War is a wargame franchise based on movement of groups of units on a battlefield map, and maneuvering armies in an overlay map. In many ways the series is reminiscent of tabletop wargames, which has made it a popular subject for discussion on /tg/.
Note that due to being a huge participant in the DLC craze, as well as the...lackluster, let's say, quality of some entries in the franchise the game has become quite Skubby in many circles, although when detractions are brought up others are quick to claim modding makes up for it, others say any game you have to mod is shit, which prompts references to games like Fallout and Vampire: The Masquerade, which results in the reply that those games are bad as well and since Medieval II is a better game that means Total War is by default objectively bad, which is when the conversation devolves into namecalling and Warhammer 40k reaction images. Yeah...
Gameplay
Total War has two main features: Turn-Based on the campaign map, and Real-Time on the battle map.
In the campaign map, you must manage your economy, keep the peace among your subjects, ally, trade, or war with other nations for vital resources, assassinate your rivals, and crush brigands and pirates as soon as they show their filthy hides. In other words, your pretty much playing Game of Thrones, without the ice demons or dragons.
In the battle map, you must prove yourself a genius of tactics. The rules pretty much work like this throughout most of the titles save for Empire, Napoleon, and Shogun:
- Spear Infantry: Great for bracing and taking down charging cavalry, but only do OK against melee infantry. Usually best if placed on the flanks. (Which, of course, is strange, considering the fact that the spear was the mainstay of most ancient and medieval armies, as moderately trained blokes armed with spear, shield, a helm, and inexpensive padded jacks/gambesons usually made up the biggest portion of most armies.)
- Melee Infantry: The hard heart of your strength. These are used to form the main line most of the time, as well as the reserves, and are absolutely vital in siege assaults. Usually tanky with decent defensive stats to grind down the enemy and pin them in place for whatever shenanigans you have planned. Good against spear infantry, can hold it's own against most cavalry except when charged by shock cavalry or withered down by archers. Usually pretty useless vs horse archers except as pincushions.
- Shock Infantry: The big blokes with big weapons. Typically armed with huge axes, poleaxes or two handed swords. But can also have other weapons such as sword n board but being bat shit crazy enough to be considered shock infantry regardless. Work as a foot version of shock cavalry and will usually be charging around flanks or bashing their way through infantry lines. Will usually destroy the things they charge but with high attack and less defense they are especially vulnerable to archers and Cavalry charges themselves.
- Ranged Infantry: Your slingers, archers, javelins, and crossbowmen. These guys are extremely useful for softening up an enemy force or clearing out a wall of defenders. Be warned, however, that they are very vulnerable to most forms of cavalry. Place them behind your main line if you value them.
- Pike Infantry: A virtual wall of death for anyone foolish enough to charge head on. The best thing to use for defending a narrow choke-point or holding a battle-line. Immune to cavalry from the front but very scared of archers.
- Ranged Cavalry: Your horse archers, primarily. These guys are great for flanking shots, ambushes, and harassing the enemy. They are vulnerable to the faster light cavalry and foot archers however.
- Light Cavalry: Primarily the scouts and vanguard of the army. Useful for quick movement around the map harassing and killing soft targets like skirmishers, artillery and horse archers, or chasing down routing foe. Not great for direct charges but can be great at rear ramming.
- Melee Cavalry: The jack of all trades of cavalry. Can charge units decently enough but preferably in the flanks or rear unless they are light. Will beat most shock cavalry in a melee fight.
- Shock Cavalry: Your knights, cataphracts, and mounted men-at-arms. These are the hammers to your melee infantry's anvil, breaking a foe like water upon rock. Used primarily for exploiting gaps in enemy lines, charging into the rear of an unsuspecting foe, or flanking attacks. Can also go straight at anything without a spear and watch them die beneath lances and hooves. Then withdraw for another go.
- Artillery: Ballistae, Scorpions, Onagers/Mangonels, and Trebuchets, mostly, with the odd cannon here or there. Used mostly for smashing down some poor chap's walls, though it is also useful for flinging hate at an enemy during a field battle, And possibly killing their leader in one shot, completely ruining the battle.
- Siege Engines: Ladders, battering rams, and siege towers, used for getting through those pesky things called battlements.
- Special Units: Any number of units not in the aforementioned lists, such as war dogs, incendiary pigs, and most importantly, elephants. Hilariously, elephants make for excellent distractions
Players can use any number of tactics from actual battles of yore, such as hammer and anvil, forcing an enemy to turn his flank to you, Mongol-style shenanigans, etc.
Games
Shogun
The first, more obscure game in the series, and for good reason, but set a good standard for the series to come. Difficult as fuck, as early rebellions spawned enough forces to overrun even major clans, and an assassin unit called Geisha was OP as fuck, legendary Geishas murdering entire Dynasties that could give the Ordo Assassinarium a hardon.
Medieval
Much large strategy map and benefited from better graphics for 2002. Improved politics and strategy. Truth be told, the cleanest, lowest system requiring, simplest and most user friendly interface in strategic management screen of the series.
Rome
Rome: Total War takes place in the era of Classical Antiquity, just before the beginning of the First Punic War. The campaign setting is that of the Ancient Euro-Mediterranean world, with its borders stretching from the coast of Portugal to the West, just past the Caspian Sea to the Northeast, and the edge of the Sahara to the South.
Players have the choice to take control of a variety of factions, from the Elephant-riding Carthaginians, to the fierce and savage Barbarians of Iron Age Europe (Celts, Germans, steppe nomads, etc.), the pike phalanxes of the Hellenic States and Egypt, the superb cavalry of the Parthians, and finally the wrecking ball legions of Rome herself.
Interestingly enough in the campaign, Rome is actually divided into four factions; the House of Julii, who focus on the northern barbarians and securing Western Europe for Rome, the House of Brutii, whom primarily are concerned with expanding Rome Eastward and thus are in conflict with Macedon, the Greek city-states, and the Eastern kingdoms, the House of Scipii, whom vie with Carthage and Egypt for control of the Mediterranean and are focused on securing Africa for Rome, and finally the Senate itself, whom directly control Rome and thus boss around the Three Houses into doing their bidding (and unfortunately no, you can't play the Senate faction and boss people around). The advantage to this is that you only have to worry about attacks from a single direction, as the other Romans quite literally have your backs. The disadvantage is that if one House becomes too popular and decides to march to Rome to declare himself Imperator, then a huge civil war breaks out among the families, with a huge player determined battle taking place near Rome, usually.
The game was also very historically inaccurate with Gaul, Germania, Britannia, Scythia, and the Greek Cities all being one unified faction (from a gameplay perspective, this is a game balance to ensure that each faction has at least more than one province to start out with so that they don't immediately get steamrolled). The Egyptian units are all based on New Kingdom Egypt when by the year 272 B.C, the Greco-Macedonian Ptolemy's were ruling Egypt, Rome's lands being divided into 3(though Rome being a Republic with decentralized rule makes sense), Greek Hoplites wielding fucking pikes like Macedonian phalangites (to be fair, many Greeks at this time did adopt Macedonian tactics, but the models and formations are still closer to pre-Alexander hoplites), and the Parthians looking like they were ripped off of Miller's depiction of Achaemenid Persia even though Parthians were more central Asiatic than Iranian around that time.
Also of note are the two expansion packs; Alexander (takes place during Alexander the Great's conquest of the Middle East and Central Asia and sadly only lets you play as Alexander.), and Barbarian Invasion (takes place during the Germanic Migrations). The latter was an incredible update around the time of Hunnic invasions and all factions were polished to perfection, including the new Horde system: meaning desperate Iron Age clans of Europe fleeing before the Huns and dogpiling the Romans who had fuck-all armies to contend with. Notable for the Sassanids, Parthians' grandchildren being monstrously overpowered in the strategic screen: fertile and stable middle east, Germanic Migrations ruining your enemies, Clibinarii cavalry who are basically Iranian Mongols who wore armor fit for a Dreadnought, wielded maces AND composite bows, and a safe Map edge to expand.
This game is either: The best Total War game ever and no other Total War game will ever supersede it because it was the first I played and all the current games suck because its not a remake of it.
OR
It is a great game. In 2004. But now its just a mess that hasn't aged well and literally every aspect of it sucks compared to all games released after it and the only people who like it are a bunch of nostalgic neckbeards who still wish it were the early 2000s.
The game is so simple from a graphical point of view that is had been ported to the I Pad, making it light years ahead of most of the competitors on the platform.
Medieval II
Continuing on the success of it's predecessor, Rome, Medieval 2 is probably just as good as the previous title. The setting is that of the Old World in the aftermath of William's conquest of England, with the Americas showing up near the campaign's end as the Age of Discovery begins in earnest.
Perhaps out of all the Total War titles, this one spawned the most mods, including several highly valued ones such as Third Age: Total War (a mod that transforms the setting into that of Middle-Earth on the outbreak of the War of the Ring) and Call of Warhammer: Beginning of the End Times (a mod that turns the game into as close a recreation of Warhammer Fantasy as possible given the game engine's capabilities), the latter serving as a pretty viable alternative if your PC is too old or weak to run CA's official, well-made adaptation (see below).
It also includes the kingdoms expansion which adds a bunch of new campaigns to the the game as well as new factions and units, including the eternally bad ass Teutonic knights.
The downside to this game is that even though the Mongols are featured in the campaign map, they are: A) an absolute bitch to fight (as it should be),and B) Not available as a playable campaign faction, only as a custom battle faction.
Empire
Here marks the descent of CA into darkness, as minor issues with playability, a lackluster musical score, and the beginnings of infamous DLC craze that would be cranked up to eleven with later titles such as Rome 2, all start to crop up during the game.
The setting itself is during the Age of Colonialism, during the 18th and early 19th Century before the rise of repeating firearms. Unlike in previous titles, emphasis is less on melee combat and more on 'shooting the fuck out of the other guys until they die', city management, industry, and research, making decaying martial empires like Ottomans need dire reforms to get back on track.
A special campaign called "The Road to Independence" unlocks the United States as a playable faction, finally giving Amerifags their long awaited chance to spread freedom to the unwashed masses all over the world. Manifest Destiny, bitches!
Napoleon
Take everything about Empire, get rid of the bad stuff, and make better the good. That is Napoleon: Total War in a nutshell
Even though the title should be self explanatory, the game takes place during the Napoleonic Wars that tore Europe apart for 12 years.
Shogun II
Shogun II takes place in Medieval Japan during the Sengoku period, although an expansion called Fall of the Samurai places players in the era of the Meiji Restoration.
Many see Shogun 2 as the last subjectively good Total War title. Complaints were mostly focused on the long load times and the fact there's very little variation between the factions you can play other than their bonuses and start location, although given the period to do anything radically different would have been unfitting.
Notably, the game received a second life from the modding community and Steam Workshop support.
A tabletop game quite similar to Shogun 2 is Kensei.
The game had 2 expansions, the first being Rise of the Samurai which was completely forgettable and not worth anyone's time and the second being Fall of the Samurai which is considered to be one of the best expansions for a total war game to date. It is essentially that one movie where Tom cruise becomes a samurai the game but is much more accurate than the film as all sides possess modern(by 1870's standards) weaponry including gatling guns, which when added to a game automatically increase it's inherent quality because gatling guns are awesome.
Does have a bit of a problem with being unplayable even today if you have the 'wrong' video card. This issue was never patched or fixed, probably a foreshadow to the poor quality control latter down the line.
Rome II
Rome 2 was announced and everyone was hyped, but then it was released apparently in a broken state with dlc. Cue rage. Now, 2 years later...is the game good?. Yes it is or maybe its still absolutely horrible it just no longer has any bugs. Campaign was noted to be horrible, but at least multiplayer is better than base game Attila. Newfags and Oldfags are fighting over it, like they do in every other game series. A better question to ask is: did Creative Assembly really "fall into darkness" with this game? The game was presumably rushed with the amount of bugs it had but those have mostly been fixed though it did take 2 years. And DLC, the game had 4 culture packs which added 3 factions each, the quality of those seem to vary from pack to pack. And a bunch of useless unit packs which were blatant money grabs, there was also 3 campaign packs which each added a mini campaign that focused on a specific conflict and (save for Wrath of Sparta) added a cultures pack worth of factions to the main campaign. There were also 6 Free-LC factions added while the game was being fixed, and a free campaign pack (Imperator Augustsus) so maybe Creative Assembly has not become a evil corporation that cuts games to sell more DLC since one of those would not give free stuff. Pre-order factions are still scummy as hell.
On a more positive note, Rome 2 does get the history of Classical Antiquity more correct, namely that:
- The Roman Republic is now a unified, patriotic entity controlling most of Italia, though the wheeling and dealing between the Gens still exists
- The Greek city states and European tribes are now independent of each other.
- The hoplites are actually hoplites now, and not phalangites (Granted, the city-states still use some pike units in the game, but this is now due to Macedonia's influence than anything)
- Mostly, the Egyptian faction now looks like it actually belongs in the Ptolemaic period, although some of their more crappy units still look like they belong with Ramses II than Cleopatra Philoraptor.
- Individual soldiers now look varied, as the concept of a modern uniform didn't really come into being until the late 17th Century
There are four expansions to the game: Caesar in Gaul (Gallic War), Hannibal at the Gates (Second Punic War), Imperator Augustus (Antony's Civil War), and Wrath of Sparta (Peloponnesian War) .
Attila
Like Napoleon before it, in regards to Empire, it ironed out many of the flaws found in Rome 2, and is considered a good entry into the series, albeit with the difficulty cranked up to eleven, due to the fact that the game is less focused on building and maintaining an empire and more on surviving the wrath of Attila the Hun, another Daemon Prince of Khorne, and rebuilding your cities and economy after the Apocalypse passes. The main criticism being the ridiculously aggressive DLC policies Sega's been doing. And again, though the title should be self explanatory, the game takes place during the Fall of the Western Roman Empire (hence the apocalyptic feel of the campaign), with one expansion taking place during Belisarius' campaign to reclaim Italy( In all honesty, it's kind of a 'meh' DLC.), and the other taking place during Charlemagne's conquest of Western Europe 400 years after the events of the base game, in the Early Medieval Period.(This one was noted to be quite good, with good balance to actual battle mechanics, more reasonable AI behavior, and great multiplayer.)
Also reintroduced and remade the Horde play-style from Rome: Barbarian Invasion. Now instead of a faction just spawning a bunch of stacks out of nowhere when their last settlement is taken. Horde factions can switch between in encamped stance where they set up camp to build migratory buildings and a regular army stance.
However, the game DOES have its flaws, namely in that the base game, the AI has a ridiculous tendency to default to the "Raze" option when capturing new settlements, meaning that by 300 or so turns into the game, three-quarters of the map is already desolate wastelands, and the stupidly high required specs to run Attila smoothly on even average settings. (If you want a game with amazing graphics, be prepared to fork over several thousand dollars for a high-end gaming computer)
Total War: WARHAMMER
A Warhammer Fantasy Total War game (nicknamed Total Warhammer by fans, even before the game was officially announced). Due to the debacle and shitstorm that was and is End Times and Age of Sigmar, many Fantasy fans heralded the game as the last great stand of Warhammer Fantasy. Then they heard of the Chaos faction was announced to be DLC, and the reveal that the pre-order was full of Dorf goods. Cue butthurt on the part of Chaos fans, and triumphant glee from the long-suffering Dwarf fans who were soon joined by Bretonnian players as their faction was announced as a free DLC (soothing the pain of being entirely squatted in Age of Sigmar somewhat). Chaos was later made free to anyone who pre-ordered the game or bought it in the first week of release.
Besides being the first game based entirely on a fictional setting, this is also the first time it will feature air units, tanks, magic, and so on.
The game was met with almost unanimous praise both from Warhammer Fantasy fans and the /v/irgins video gaming community with many saying it is the most entertaining, or at least unique, Total War game to date. Campaign was extremely well received, known to be fun, and challenging at the same time, as this time, the horde has more realistic behaviors, unlike Attila who raped everyone with the armies appearing from thin air. Instead, Archeaon would just spank you with the armies that spawned out of nowhere. but CA managed to fuck up the multiplayer balance yet again. Games Workshop rushed to put a link to sites to purchase the game on their main page along with a link to the models featured in the game...which consisted of only nine models thanks to massive Squatting of the Fantasy range only months before, almost all in the $50-$90 range, and the named character now simply called generic names with absolutely no realization that any fans of the game visiting the section would be wanting the tools and paints as well.
Warhammer Fantasy fans on /tg/ were quick to explain to inquisitive cross-board visitors how the tabletop of Fantasy was destroyed in favor of a...vastly different game and were pointed towards early editions/The 9th Age and alternative companies to buy similar looking models from.