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And the Sisters of Battle get mutilated a lot whenever Ward comes near them. We're starting to get the feeling that he's into [[/d/|sexist snuff flicks]].
And the Sisters of Battle get mutilated a lot whenever Ward comes near them. We're starting to get the feeling that he's into [[/d/|sexist snuff flicks]].
==On Misogyny==
Now for the tricky part; misogyny is subjective, with most people defining it as an irrational or pathological dislike of women.
There is in that definition alone four points for us to try to puzzle this one out:
* For the fa/tg/uys to whom Bloodtide is misogyny it is fairly obvious (given that there was no reason for the Sisters of Battle to die in-universe) that their deaths were the direct result of an irrational act of contempt for women or misogyny by Matt "bane of /tg/'s existence" Ward. It could have been any Imperium force, but he chose it to be the women who were just a footnote in the story other than being casualties.
* To the second group of fa/tg/uys, 40K is a [[grimdark|violent setting]] in which people get killed horribly all the time, and the Sisters of Battle are no exception to this (see for example the Second Battle of Sanctuary 101 in the novel Hammer and Anvil); to this group the Sister's deaths are a result of the general misanthropy of the setting, which delights in the brutal slaughter of humans (and xenos) regardless of gender. Sisters were just a randomly chosen group, and it might as well have been Imperial Guard, Inquisitors, or <strike>Ultramarines</strike> well, maybe that last one's out of the question for Ward regardless...
* There is however a third interpretation of the events of Bloodtide, but it is of some sophistication, ergo not a product of Matt "Ima [[troll]] u" Ward. Were he so capable he could have used Bloodtide to demonstrate that the Imperium in-universe is sexist, the Grey Knights as flawed beings, and that the needless deaths therein would have been seen as unimportant to anyone anywhere because the victims were women. In short using sexism irrrrrrrronically. To this smar/tg/uy, it is infinitely more likely that Matt "I failed Women's Studies 101" Ward failed to understand the very problematic nature of the Women in Refrigerators trope, which led to him creating a story in which the Grey Knights act as misogynistic wankers. That said there's no reason to believe that 38,000 years of human history has led to any sort of decline in sexism (indeed, we can see that kind of behavior in Imperial Guard in novels).
* A newer one is that, based on past fluff, Grey Knights often use the blood of priests due to the fact the Imperial Cult is a martyrdom religion combined with martyrdom being a major theme of the Sisters of Blood. It wouldn't be remotely out of place if the Sisters had agreed to being paint knowing that it would indeed make the Grey Knights stronger in the face of Chaos. Factor in that Matt Ward ''is'' capable of writing Sisters well (as shown in their codex), and the cries of misogyny seem like just the fact that the story left out a lot of important details due to just being a stub, and oversensitivity that was gotten away with due to Ward being popular to hate on. The Grey Knights are humans. Stalwart protectors of mankind. Holy Warriors of the Emperor blah blah blah. Killing humans of any sort - most especially the holy Daughters of the Emperor - is heresy when done for absolutely no reason (even if the reason is shaky). Also, note the utter lack of "and the Grey Knights killed all the Imperial Guardsmen for lulz" in the codex, or in any of Matt Ward's writings. This lends credence to the interpretation that the Sisters martyred themselves for victory.
Which of these you believe is most plausible probably depends on how deep seated your hatred of Ward is, whether you are the type of person to give others the benefit of the doubt or to immediately assume the worst, and how you feel about violence towards women.
As it stands, we'll be keeping an eye on him. Y'know, because we've nothing better to do; and because the last group of Sister Militants we assigned to this thankless task tried to kill him.
<strike>Also, The Sisters of Battle are fighting the BLOODTIDE... HA!</strike> PMS joke, you fail at it.


==Gallery==
==Gallery==

Revision as of 02:56, 3 December 2013

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I make no claims to be a fan of the Bolter Bitches, but this is one of the most grievous offenses Matt Ward has transcribed to paper.

Not to be confused with Khornate Knights or Skullcrushers

SoBs make shmancy hats as well. Grey Knights have apparently taken a page from Necron Flayers.
But that this were real.
Really though, the Grey Knights and Sistas are total bros. Disregard Ward. As usual.

Rage

Basically one story in the new Grey Knight Codex, "The Bloodtide Returns", lists the Grey Knights as coming across a planet wherein a powerful Dark Age of Technology nanite weapon controlled by a bloodthirster resided - one so powerful that it was corrupting the populace by flying into their pores and driving them crazy. There was a convent of Sisters that were being slowly wiped out near the site whose faith was keeping them pure and untouched by the taint except for all the ones who were corrupted, and instead of asking for the Sisters' assistance the Grey Knights proceeded to slaughter them all and make wards from their blood, then go about banishing the daemon. Read the fucking fluff some time. All after the codex stating literally that their faith is strong enough to protect them from any kind of daemonic corruption.

Think about this, for just a minute. The Sisters' faith protected some of them from being corrupted. Yet, as has been shown before, there have been a few Sisters of Battle that have fallen to Chaos. In come the Grey Knights, whose faith is so powerful it is quite literally their strongest weapon and their most potent protection. These Grey Knights' faith is not strong enough to withstand the NANITE WEAPONS of Chaos, while the Sisters' is? Does that make ANY sense at all?

This is a classic case of extra heresy; canon to this point had implicitly detailed 3 things:

  • That the Grey Knights greatly loathe the daemonic, to the point where the Black Templars' and Angry Marines' hatred for it would look like that of a guardsman in comparison.
  • That no Grey Knight in the history of the chapter has ever fallen to the temptations of Chaos due to the massive amounts of spiritual and physical indoctrination and training they go through that would make the Space Marines' training and creation regiment look like your morning workout. In addition, in older fluff, the Grey Knights COULD fall to Chaos, in theory. However, in addition to their intense faith, they closely regulated themselves. If a Battle-brother's reaction to Chaos was anything less than "NO FUCKING WAY!", they were killed on the spot.
  • That but a single Sister of Battle has fallen to Chaos.

And yet we have this - evidence of the darkest kind of heresy, if not outright Khorne worship, and it's canon.

Fucking Matt Ward. Next thing you know, Kharn will be working for the Tau or something. Yeah about that....funny thing happened guys...*nervous laugh* ' *BLAM* HERESY!!!!!

And the Sisters of Battle get mutilated a lot whenever Ward comes near them. We're starting to get the feeling that he's into sexist snuff flicks.

Gallery

  • What REALLY happened that day.

    What REALLY happened that day.

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