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:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."'' | :An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."'' | ||
It's ironic this stat showed up in peoples games of D&D at all, and managed to stay with it for a while (hoping it isn't still kicking somewhere) because the Wizards explicitly made the effort in 3.5 books to use female pronouns almost every instance of a pronoun for describing a class not involving a character passage. And throughout there are illustrations of heavily armored, imposing, lethal, women. Even before that, when the Magic the Gathering game was created (at it's inception largely for the sake of DnDer's) all the angels have been depicted as distinctly female in illustration and name. | It's ironic this stat showed up in peoples games of D&D at all, and managed to stay with it for a while (hoping it isn't still kicking somewhere) because the Wizards explicitly made the effort in 3.5 books to use female pronouns almost every instance of a pronoun for describing a class not involving a character passage. And throughout there are illustrations of heavily armored, imposing, lethal, women. Even before that edition of DnD, when the Magic the Gathering game was created (at it's inception largely for the sake of DnDer's), all the angels have been depicted as distinctly female in illustration and name, from the games creation to today. | ||
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-4 Str is a meme and trollbait from /tg/. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially adventurers -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their strength score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words a musclegirl image dump or a stupid argument will ensue, sometimes both.
History
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
- An oldfag says: "This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of 1st ed. AD&D: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of Gary Gygax."
It's ironic this stat showed up in peoples games of D&D at all, and managed to stay with it for a while (hoping it isn't still kicking somewhere) because the Wizards explicitly made the effort in 3.5 books to use female pronouns almost every instance of a pronoun for describing a class not involving a character passage. And throughout there are illustrations of heavily armored, imposing, lethal, women. Even before that edition of DnD, when the Magic the Gathering game was created (at it's inception largely for the sake of DnDer's), all the angels have been depicted as distinctly female in illustration and name, from the games creation to today.
See Also:
- Women are Underpowered in d20
- List of world records in athletics
- Comparable weight classes in the list of world records in weightlifting
- Female Fantasy Armor
Gallery
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"ah-ha-ha-ha NO."
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A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?
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A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.
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1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
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Who says there are no mods in /tg/?
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I bet 30 internetz that she couldn't do this without the power armor.
