Chaos Android: Difference between revisions
1d4chan>Fikilili (Added pics, I'm gonna have an argument with a 40k specialist about the last paragraph I wanna add tho.) |
1d4chan>VarangiaMan1984 No edit summary |
||
Line 2: | Line 2: | ||
{{topquote|You're wondering who I am, Machine or Manequin, With parts made in Necromunda, I am the Chaos Man!|The anthem of the shortlived Chaos Androids}} | {{topquote|You're wondering who I am, Machine or Manequin, With parts made in Necromunda, I am the Chaos Man!|The anthem of the shortlived Chaos Androids}} | ||
Squats, being space dorfs, invent all sorts of things on the fly. Weapons, spaceships, super-computers that take 400 years to process anything, and, given the sci-fi nature of Warhammer 40k, robots. Robots are the best companions Squats can have. They're obedient, mannered, practical, and come in handy in times of need. However, these very same robots were | Squats, being space dorfs, invent all sorts of things on the fly. Weapons, spaceships, super-computers that take 400 years to process anything, and, given the sci-fi nature of Warhammer 40k, robots. Robots are the best companions Squats can have. They're obedient, mannered, practical, and come in handy in times of need. However, these very same robots were squatted along with the actual Squats. Making it a double-squatting. | ||
In the old days of [[Oldhammer|Oldhammer 40k]], every race in the setting was an echo of their Fantasy counterpart. Naturally the Squats were | In the old days of [[Oldhammer|Oldhammer 40k]], every race in the setting was an echo of their Fantasy counterpart. Naturally, the Squats were exempted from this rule, because they had their de-facto rivals; the Chaos Squats, who happen to also be engineers and computer geniuses, minus the bull-god, because they are subordinates to other Chaos factions. And wouldn't you know, they had their own "robots". Applying the Robotnik principle to their design, they stuck very tiny daemons to metal skeletons and called it a day. So they had [[Derp|Human-sized mechas serving the interest of the Chaos Gods]]. | ||
The Chaos Androids as a concept are... [[Necoho| | The Chaos Androids as a concept are... [[Necoho|a paradox]], but also a vestige of what 40k once was; wacky fantasy [[Meme|IN SPESS]]. A snapshot of what the setting could've become down the line had GW stuck with the fantasy-in-space schtick. This is their story and their heritage. | ||
==[[What]]== | ==[[What]]== | ||
[[File:KhornateChaosAndroids.jpeg|300px|thumb|left|"Today is | [[File:KhornateChaosAndroids.jpeg|300px|thumb|left|"Today is National Kick Dreadnought Ass Day!"]] | ||
So, you must be very confused as to what even is a Chaos Android. Well, allow us to shed some light on this very obscure army which never made it past First Edition. | So, you must be very confused as to what even is a Chaos Android. Well, allow us to shed some light on this very obscure army which never made it past First Edition. | ||
So, along with the | So, along with the renowned [[Squats]] were the [[Chaos Dwarfs|Chaos Squats]]. Like their "good" counterparts, they made tons of different contraptions, and unlike their fantasy counterpart, they obeyed the [[Chaos Undivided|will]] [[Nurgle|of]] [[Khorne|the]] [[Slaanesh|Big]] [[Tzeentch|Four]]. With their forge set either at the very edge of, or very close to the [[Warp]], the technology of the Chaos Squats was influenced by the daemonic nature of their environment. Henceforth, a lot of their weapons rely on elements and other garbage generated by the Warp. Needless to say, their eldritch technology would make even a [[Mekboy]] shiver in fear. | ||
One of their greatest achievements has to be the Chaos Android. Perfect pseudo-robots that are essentially miniature mechas. The way they function is very interesting. You see, the Chaos Squats | One of their greatest achievements has to be the Chaos Android. Perfect pseudo-robots that are essentially miniature mechas. The way they function is very interesting. You see, the Chaos Squats hadn't developed any sort of AI, so instead of coding intelligence into them and essentially making them mindless, emotionless robots that directly serve Gods who use emotions to thrive, they decided to use daemons instead. You see, Chaos Androids are operated from the inside, being piloted by very tiny daemons. Not [[Nurgling|Nurglings]], but some daemonic entities that are so tiny, they could fit inside [[METAL BAWKSES|METAL SKELLIES]]. This greatly puts the Chaos Androids above any other robot, since they possess some form of consciousness and are able to make decisions based on what their priorities are during their missions. | ||
You might wonder if the daemons inside of them would make good candidates to be pilots | You might wonder if the daemons inside of them would make good candidates to be pilots, and you'd be right to think that they're not. But here's the thing; Chaos Squats were smart enough to figure that Daemons would hate being stuck inside literal boxes, and they would do anything in their power to escape. To counter that problem, the Chaos Squats made the daemons unable to disobey them. That's right. That essentially turns the Chaos Squats into pseudo-androids/pseudo-robots. Yes, the daemon wants to come out and kick the fuck out the Squat that put him in there, but he cannot really find the will to escape, and he feels this unbeatable urge to obey... | ||
There's one small issue though; | There's one small issue though; | ||
Yes, Chaos Androids would | Yes, Chaos Androids would theoretically obey you. But if they get the opportunity to betray you or pervert their orders, they would immediately take it. Daemons, even inside robotic pile of chromed bones, are still daemons. As it turns out, daemons hate being stuck inside metallic vessels in which they cannot feel a thing, and being forced to obey a bunch of beardy nerds. Their mischievous nature cannot be completely tamed and overcome, making the Androids practical but dubious allies. They are strong indeed and will obey you, but there's always a chance they will turn their back on you. | ||
Daemon-fuckery aside, the technical aspects of the Chaos Androids are as | Daemon-fuckery aside, the technical aspects of the Chaos Androids are as follows; | ||
* In spite of their anatomical appearance, they are completely | * In spite of their anatomical appearance, they are completely devoid of flesh and, ironically, actual bones. Their body is entirely made out of plasteel. The very same metal used by the Imperium to create [[Terminator]] Armor. | ||
* Inside of them can be found the many contraptions trapping their literal inner-daemon, preventing it from escaping or breaking the whole body apart. | * Inside of them can be found the many contraptions trapping their literal inner-daemon, preventing it from escaping or breaking the whole body apart. | ||
* From the very little depictions of the Chaos Androids, it seems that each God or Chaos Army had their attributed set of Androids | * From the very little depictions of the Chaos Androids, it seems that each God or Chaos Army had their attributed set of Androids, many being usually tied to [[Khorne]]. | ||
* Despite the engineering masterwork that they are, the Chaos Androids weren't given any sort of particular arsenal. They've been depicted as using | * Despite the engineering masterwork that they are, the Chaos Androids weren't given any sort of particular arsenal. They've been depicted as using lasguns, bayonets, and other sorts of weaponry already used by the [[Imperial Guard]]. | ||
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is all that we know about the Chaos Androids. | And that, ladies and gentlemen, is all that we know about the Chaos Androids. | ||
==Why== | ==Why== | ||
[[File:ChaosAndroidSpaceCrusade.jpg|400px|thumb|left|The | [[File:ChaosAndroidSpaceCrusade.jpg|400px|thumb|left|The first (and last) official appearance of the Chaos Androids on a boxset.]] | ||
In the early years of Warhammer 40k, the initial project was to create a setting almost similar to Fantasy but | In the early years of Warhammer 40k, the initial project was to create a setting almost similar to Fantasy but IN SPACE, with various differences being made here and there. This was back when the setting was significantly more tongue-in-cheek and less grimdark than it is now, but also back when a lot of the factions being implemented were just straight rip-offs from Fantasy itself. Well, not quite literally. | ||
You could see the Chaos Androids being the equivalent of Fantasy's Undead, with the sharp difference being that they obeyed the forces of Chaos and not their equivalent of then-not- | You could see the Chaos Androids being the equivalent of Fantasy's Undead, with the sharp difference being that they obeyed the forces of Chaos and not their equivalent of then-not-Egyptian Nagash or Vampire Counts, and also not literally being skeletons. The biggest difference with the Undead, though, were that the Chaos Androids did not even count as their own factions. They served as reinforcements for Chaos and their stats weren't an echo to the Undead Legions. | ||
[[File:ChaosAndroidNecronComparison.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|The | [[File:ChaosAndroidNecronComparison.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|The resemblance is uncanny.]] | ||
There are very few words talking about the behind-the- | There are very few words talking about the behind-the-scenes history of the Chaos Androids, but it's easy to assume that they were the prototype for what would become the [[Necrons]]. | ||
Back in their early years, the Necrons had a more significant amount of personality and general goofiness given to their characters | Back in their early years, the Necrons had a more significant amount of personality and general goofiness given to their characters, as they literally looked like skeletons wearing a robot costume, with the lot of them having a lot more personality in their appearance, demeanor, and their general design not really evoking their Egyptian vibes. Once they were given their proper codex and background, GW definitely dropped the Androids in favor of them. And with time, they completely removed some of the elements that were reminiscent of the Chaos bots. Their personality and daemonic nature? Gone. Their alignment with Chaos in general? Gone. Their general lack of motif in favor of visual plurality? Super gone. Eventually the Necrons looked like actual dead aliens with their own culture and weaponry, and not just an army of cartoon skeleton villains. | ||
[[File:Old Necrons.jpg|200px|thumb|left|The Old Necrons, when they were more skelly than | [[File:Old Necrons.jpg|200px|thumb|left|The Old Necrons, when they were more skelly than Egyptian.]] | ||
So, the Chaos Androids wept along with the Chaos Squats and their non- | So, the Chaos Androids wept along with the Chaos Squats and their non-Chaos brothers, never to be heard from again. | ||
==Unsquating the unsquatable== | ==Unsquating the unsquatable== | ||
With the [[Squats]] coming back to kick some more ass, some have theorized that there could be a potential return of the Chaos Androids | With the [[Squats]] coming back to kick some more ass, some have theorized that there could be a potential return of the Chaos Androids; in fact, there is a canon way to make them. It's as simple as putting daemon into one of the Leagues of Votann Ironkin (which we know can be done; that's how daemon engines are made, after all, by sticking and trapping daemons in machines) and '''BAM'''. It's actually very unlikely that they'll return officially but the conversion opportunity is there. |
Revision as of 04:58, 8 August 2022
"You're wondering who I am, Machine or Manequin, With parts made in Necromunda, I am the Chaos Man!"
- – The anthem of the shortlived Chaos Androids
Squats, being space dorfs, invent all sorts of things on the fly. Weapons, spaceships, super-computers that take 400 years to process anything, and, given the sci-fi nature of Warhammer 40k, robots. Robots are the best companions Squats can have. They're obedient, mannered, practical, and come in handy in times of need. However, these very same robots were squatted along with the actual Squats. Making it a double-squatting.
In the old days of Oldhammer 40k, every race in the setting was an echo of their Fantasy counterpart. Naturally, the Squats were exempted from this rule, because they had their de-facto rivals; the Chaos Squats, who happen to also be engineers and computer geniuses, minus the bull-god, because they are subordinates to other Chaos factions. And wouldn't you know, they had their own "robots". Applying the Robotnik principle to their design, they stuck very tiny daemons to metal skeletons and called it a day. So they had Human-sized mechas serving the interest of the Chaos Gods.
The Chaos Androids as a concept are... a paradox, but also a vestige of what 40k once was; wacky fantasy IN SPESS. A snapshot of what the setting could've become down the line had GW stuck with the fantasy-in-space schtick. This is their story and their heritage.
What
So, you must be very confused as to what even is a Chaos Android. Well, allow us to shed some light on this very obscure army which never made it past First Edition.
So, along with the renowned Squats were the Chaos Squats. Like their "good" counterparts, they made tons of different contraptions, and unlike their fantasy counterpart, they obeyed the will of the Big Four. With their forge set either at the very edge of, or very close to the Warp, the technology of the Chaos Squats was influenced by the daemonic nature of their environment. Henceforth, a lot of their weapons rely on elements and other garbage generated by the Warp. Needless to say, their eldritch technology would make even a Mekboy shiver in fear.
One of their greatest achievements has to be the Chaos Android. Perfect pseudo-robots that are essentially miniature mechas. The way they function is very interesting. You see, the Chaos Squats hadn't developed any sort of AI, so instead of coding intelligence into them and essentially making them mindless, emotionless robots that directly serve Gods who use emotions to thrive, they decided to use daemons instead. You see, Chaos Androids are operated from the inside, being piloted by very tiny daemons. Not Nurglings, but some daemonic entities that are so tiny, they could fit inside METAL SKELLIES. This greatly puts the Chaos Androids above any other robot, since they possess some form of consciousness and are able to make decisions based on what their priorities are during their missions.
You might wonder if the daemons inside of them would make good candidates to be pilots, and you'd be right to think that they're not. But here's the thing; Chaos Squats were smart enough to figure that Daemons would hate being stuck inside literal boxes, and they would do anything in their power to escape. To counter that problem, the Chaos Squats made the daemons unable to disobey them. That's right. That essentially turns the Chaos Squats into pseudo-androids/pseudo-robots. Yes, the daemon wants to come out and kick the fuck out the Squat that put him in there, but he cannot really find the will to escape, and he feels this unbeatable urge to obey...
There's one small issue though;
Yes, Chaos Androids would theoretically obey you. But if they get the opportunity to betray you or pervert their orders, they would immediately take it. Daemons, even inside robotic pile of chromed bones, are still daemons. As it turns out, daemons hate being stuck inside metallic vessels in which they cannot feel a thing, and being forced to obey a bunch of beardy nerds. Their mischievous nature cannot be completely tamed and overcome, making the Androids practical but dubious allies. They are strong indeed and will obey you, but there's always a chance they will turn their back on you.
Daemon-fuckery aside, the technical aspects of the Chaos Androids are as follows;
- In spite of their anatomical appearance, they are completely devoid of flesh and, ironically, actual bones. Their body is entirely made out of plasteel. The very same metal used by the Imperium to create Terminator Armor.
- Inside of them can be found the many contraptions trapping their literal inner-daemon, preventing it from escaping or breaking the whole body apart.
- From the very little depictions of the Chaos Androids, it seems that each God or Chaos Army had their attributed set of Androids, many being usually tied to Khorne.
- Despite the engineering masterwork that they are, the Chaos Androids weren't given any sort of particular arsenal. They've been depicted as using lasguns, bayonets, and other sorts of weaponry already used by the Imperial Guard.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is all that we know about the Chaos Androids.
Why
In the early years of Warhammer 40k, the initial project was to create a setting almost similar to Fantasy but IN SPACE, with various differences being made here and there. This was back when the setting was significantly more tongue-in-cheek and less grimdark than it is now, but also back when a lot of the factions being implemented were just straight rip-offs from Fantasy itself. Well, not quite literally.
You could see the Chaos Androids being the equivalent of Fantasy's Undead, with the sharp difference being that they obeyed the forces of Chaos and not their equivalent of then-not-Egyptian Nagash or Vampire Counts, and also not literally being skeletons. The biggest difference with the Undead, though, were that the Chaos Androids did not even count as their own factions. They served as reinforcements for Chaos and their stats weren't an echo to the Undead Legions.
There are very few words talking about the behind-the-scenes history of the Chaos Androids, but it's easy to assume that they were the prototype for what would become the Necrons.
Back in their early years, the Necrons had a more significant amount of personality and general goofiness given to their characters, as they literally looked like skeletons wearing a robot costume, with the lot of them having a lot more personality in their appearance, demeanor, and their general design not really evoking their Egyptian vibes. Once they were given their proper codex and background, GW definitely dropped the Androids in favor of them. And with time, they completely removed some of the elements that were reminiscent of the Chaos bots. Their personality and daemonic nature? Gone. Their alignment with Chaos in general? Gone. Their general lack of motif in favor of visual plurality? Super gone. Eventually the Necrons looked like actual dead aliens with their own culture and weaponry, and not just an army of cartoon skeleton villains.
So, the Chaos Androids wept along with the Chaos Squats and their non-Chaos brothers, never to be heard from again.
Unsquating the unsquatable
With the Squats coming back to kick some more ass, some have theorized that there could be a potential return of the Chaos Androids; in fact, there is a canon way to make them. It's as simple as putting daemon into one of the Leagues of Votann Ironkin (which we know can be done; that's how daemon engines are made, after all, by sticking and trapping daemons in machines) and BAM. It's actually very unlikely that they'll return officially but the conversion opportunity is there.