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'''Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay''' is, as its name implies, a [[roleplaying game]] set in the world of [[Warhammer Fantasy Battles]]. It has had a checkered past, going through a number of different publishers and frequently sitting for years in development limbo.
'''Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay''' is, as its name implies, a [[roleplaying game]] set in the world of [[Warhammer Fantasy Battles]]. It has had a checkered past, going through a number of different publishers and frequently sitting for years in development limbo.


Although the setting is occasionally [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkienesque]], it generally takes far more inspiration from the real world, being essentially an alternate universe version of Europe circa the 1500s. This means that firearms are fairly common but also fairly inaccurate. Similarly, magic exists, but it has a chance of raping you with eldritch energy. Humans, as well as their [[dwarf]] and [[elf]] allies, are opposed by [[beastmen]], [[orc]]s, [[daemon]]s, [[troll]]s, and all manner of other horrible things that may inflict loss of life and limb, usually with far darker interpretations than their [[Dungeons & Dragons]] counterparts.
Although the setting is occasionally [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkienesque]], it generally takes far more inspiration from the real world, being essentially an alternate universe version of Europe circa the 1500s. Most of the game is set in a fantasy version of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire Holy Roman Empire] (a medieval superstate in what is now Germany comprised of thousands of bickering states, some of the very smallest were just one city and the immediate surrounding land; also the most non-indicative name for anything ever besides the minigun, as it was not an empire, not Roman, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformation not particularly holy either]). Cities have begun to rise, but it brings with it crime, corruption and general rot. Medical care is simple butchery and the insane are hounded out of fear daemons have touched them, except here there really is a chance. Firearms are fairly common but also fairly inaccurate and the actually affordable ones are scarily likely to catastrophically fail and shred your forearms with shrapnel. Similarly magic exists, but every time you cast a spell you are literally putting your soul on the line as you may be horribly mutated by eldritch energy or just sucked into the Warp and raped by daemons for all eternity if the invocation goes wrong. Humans are the dominant race but by no means do they call the world theirs - as well as their [[dwarf]] and [[elf]] allies, they are opposed by [[beastmen]], [[orc]]s, [[daemon]]s, [[troll]]s, and all manner of other horrible things that may inflict loss of life and limb. Doom stalks the countryside, the smaller villages and towns are populated by dopey inbreds and have to fend for themselves, and the civilised world stands on the brink of annihilation. In your usual noblebright [[Dungeons & Dragons]] game, you play great heroes trying to stop the apocalypse; in this game the apocalypse has pretty much already happened and it's more "[[Call of Cthulhu]] meets Monty Python and the Holy Grail" (in fact this world's version of France is exactly like that, but worse; and you really, really don't even want to imagine what their version of Russia is like, it would make Ivan the Terrible himself shit with fear).


Nearly every portion of character creation can be rolled leading to amusing tales of a peasant, a noble, a doctor, and a sailor getting together to claim a lost dwarven stronghold. The best class is ratcatcher, as it has the most important piece of equipment in the game, a small but vicious dog.
Nearly every portion of character creation can be rolled leading to amusing tales of a peasant, a noble, a doctor, and a sailor getting together to claim a lost dwarven stronghold. Depending on what career you roll up, you might not even start with a proper weapon, and you can forget starting with armour. You might have enough starting gold to get a decent pair of boots or a leather skullcap though, but any chainmail you get is probably moth-eaten and nabbed off a dead bandit. Money is also hard to come by and difficult to work with not only because it's non-metric like old British money (a gold crown is 20 shillings, 1 shilling is 12 bronze pennies, etc.) but also because there is a good chance that you go into the next state and it is worthless because nobody recognises it. The best "class" is ratcatcher, as it has the most important piece of equipment in the game, a small but vicious dog; the downside to being a ratcatcher is you have to wade through waist-deep levels of shit to club rats for very little pay, and you can't talk about the ratmen you keep encountering down there because the people who do tend to be never heard from again. Seriously, being a ratcatcher is the most thankless and pitiful job ever.


The system in general, especially in combat, is extremely (and often hilariously) lethal, and has many rules for crippling injuries and critical hits. This can cause, for example, a lowly badger bite to result in the loss of limbs, and turns attempting to mount a horse into a dangerous endeavour only undertaken by the most foolhardy of warriors.
There are four races in the main game: Humans, elves, dwarfs and halflings.
* Humans have balanced states and the widest selection of possible careers with the best progression. They can come from all walks of life and various places. The rulebook snarkily points out that you should know about these and how to play them.
* Dwarfs are an ancient race nominally allied with humanity, their empire was shattered by a cataclysm and a war with the elves long ago and now they are dying out in part because they wage constant war with basically everyone - Dwarfs in this world are pathologically obsessed with retribution; a human noble once found an army of angry dwarfs seeking to kill him and ransack his castle because centuries ago his ancestor cheated the dwarf stonecutters he employed to build it out of twelve pennies, then after they won they went home and listed all the casualties in the battle as a separate grudge to be settled again later. They have decent stats but skew towards "slow but strong" and have their own unique career options.
* Elves are pretty, talented with magic and have a glorious and tragic history. If you are an elf either you are from one of the hidden forest enclaves in human territory, or one of the great trade cities like Marienburg or Altdorf. They have excellent stats, a base movement as fast as a horse, don't need to pay tuition fees if you want to be a mage and their unique career list lacks a lot of the suckier options. The obvious downside to being an elf however, is that you are an elf. Elves are hated in most places for being snobby jackholes and any given country town is populated by superstitous racists who will cheerfully greet you with torches and chopping implements. Many parts of the world have an "Ear tax" that applies to elves - basically, you pay a silver or you lose an ear.
* Halflings are the inverse of the elves. They have miserable stats, the lowest strength, weapon skill and toughness scores and the lowest number of wounds. So why play one? Two reasons. First, because halflings are practically immune to Chaos corruption - they can juggle pieces of wyrdstone with no ill effects when other races trying that can expect for their lower jaw to fall out and be replaced by tentacles. Second, because they are the only race who won't face racism... much, because nobody cares enough about halflings to hate them.


It is also probably the only high fantasy universe, in which magic is not (terribly) OP. Not so much because the rules don't have spells that can deal [[rage|4*1d10+4 damage '''every''' hit having a chance to be critical, dealing another 1d10 damage]], which [[munchkin|keeping in mind that a PC min/maxed and lucky too can at most have 22 hitpoints and 13 damage reduction]] is quite a bit. No. It's because of the fact casting even a lowly fireball [[FATAL|has the chance to open a rift to the realm of chaos that sucks you in so your ass can be eternally fucked by Slaanesh]]. And for some reason the Lore of Light has more listed healing spells than the Lore of Life (because Light spells purify wounds and Life spells exacerbate infection, duh).
The system in general, especially in combat, is extremely (and often hilariously) lethal, and has many rules for crippling injuries and critical hits. This can cause, for example, a lowly badger bite to result in the loss of limbs, and turns attempting to mount a horse into a dangerous endeavour only undertaken by the most foolhardy of warriors. For the true WFRP experience however, there is an [https://www.windsofchaos.com/?page_id=19 epic compilation of expanded injury rules and tables] created by an ER doctor who read the original injury ruleset in all its glory and all its horror and decided to spice it up a bit, gruesomely depicting the kind of damage these primitive weapons would have on human bodies. Disease is also a fact of life and saomething your characters will not get away from; it is entirely possible that in protecting a hamlet from zombies, you catch a contagion and you perish five days later after your eyes rot out. Poultices are valuable, and magical healing is worth more than gold.


Perhaps the biggest claim to fame for the system is the extreme amounts of character classes available to players. While the base game is generally rather simple (start as noob wizard, then shit wizard, then ok wizard etc) additional books have added a shocking amount of player choice. Want to be a rat catcher or a slave? How about a Grail Knight or a Vampire? Want to play a warp stone sniffing Skaven or champion of Nurgle? All of these are options. Highly recommended is playing with the Career Companion (even if the book itself is rarer than pieces of the holy cross) since it adds literally hundreds of classes from all the released books, but be aware that some aspects they add (like new types of magic) are not in the book and might require some extra legwork or modulation to figure out.   
It is also probably the only high fantasy universe, in which magic is not (terribly) OP. Not so much because the rules don't have spells that can deal [[rage|4*1d10+4 damage '''every''' hit having a chance to be critical, dealing another 1d10 damage]], which [[munchkin|keeping in mind that a PC min/maxed and lucky too can at most have 22 hitpoints and 13 damage reduction]] is quite a bit. No. It's because of the fact casting even a lowly fireball [[FATAL|has the chance to open a rift to the realm of Chaos that sucks you in so your ass can be eternally fucked by Slaanesh]]. There are a lot of arcane Lores you can specialise in (Beasts, Death, Fire, Heavens, Life, Light, Metal and Shadow) and being a wizard means being inducted into the College to be sanctioned. Don't be an unsanctioned magic user, or you can expect a visit from a gang of [[Witch Hunters|scowling, heavily-armed men]] eager for a little chat. But being part of a school of magic actually changes you fundamentally as you become seeped in the magic - if you join the Bright Order, expect your hair to become bright orange, your body to carry a lingering smell of sulphur, and leave ash and scorch marks everywhere you touch.
 
Perhaps the biggest claim to fame for the system is the extreme amounts of character classes available to players. While the base game is generally rather simple (start as noob wizard, then shit wizard, then ok wizard etc) additional books have added a shocking amount of player choice. Want to be a rat catcher or a slave? How about a Grail Knight or a Vampire? Want to play a warp stone sniffing Skaven or champion of Nurgle? All of these are options. The career system is in many ways better than the static class system employed by D&D because character progression feels a lot more organic and spontaneous and less reliant on "builds". You can start out as a mercenary, aim to move up to join a knightly order, but then you meet up with some dwarfs and instead learn to become a shield-breaker with them. Highly recommended is playing with the Career Companion (even if the book itself is rarer than pieces of the holy cross) since it adds literally hundreds of classes from all the released books, but be aware that some aspects they add (like new types of magic) are not in the book and might require some extra legwork or modulation to figure out.   


It has a [[Warhammer: Age of Sigmar]] counterpart in the form of Warhammer: [[Age of Sigmar Roleplay]]: Soulbound.
It has a [[Warhammer: Age of Sigmar]] counterpart in the form of Warhammer: [[Age of Sigmar Roleplay]]: Soulbound.

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In the grim, dark, grimdark fantasy version of Late Medieval Germany, you will roll up peasants and be slain by fantastical creatures and Daemon lords vastly more powerful than your character can ever hope to become, no matter how much experience he gains. Unless you have the Tome of Corruption supplement, in which case, you can be a badass motherfucking Chaos viking.

Either that, or he'll just die of cholera.

Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay is, as its name implies, a roleplaying game set in the world of Warhammer Fantasy Battles. It has had a checkered past, going through a number of different publishers and frequently sitting for years in development limbo.

Although the setting is occasionally Tolkienesque, it generally takes far more inspiration from the real world, being essentially an alternate universe version of Europe circa the 1500s. Most of the game is set in a fantasy version of the Holy Roman Empire (a medieval superstate in what is now Germany comprised of thousands of bickering states, some of the very smallest were just one city and the immediate surrounding land; also the most non-indicative name for anything ever besides the minigun, as it was not an empire, not Roman, and not particularly holy either). Cities have begun to rise, but it brings with it crime, corruption and general rot. Medical care is simple butchery and the insane are hounded out of fear daemons have touched them, except here there really is a chance. Firearms are fairly common but also fairly inaccurate and the actually affordable ones are scarily likely to catastrophically fail and shred your forearms with shrapnel. Similarly magic exists, but every time you cast a spell you are literally putting your soul on the line as you may be horribly mutated by eldritch energy or just sucked into the Warp and raped by daemons for all eternity if the invocation goes wrong. Humans are the dominant race but by no means do they call the world theirs - as well as their dwarf and elf allies, they are opposed by beastmen, orcs, daemons, trolls, and all manner of other horrible things that may inflict loss of life and limb. Doom stalks the countryside, the smaller villages and towns are populated by dopey inbreds and have to fend for themselves, and the civilised world stands on the brink of annihilation. In your usual noblebright Dungeons & Dragons game, you play great heroes trying to stop the apocalypse; in this game the apocalypse has pretty much already happened and it's more "Call of Cthulhu meets Monty Python and the Holy Grail" (in fact this world's version of France is exactly like that, but worse; and you really, really don't even want to imagine what their version of Russia is like, it would make Ivan the Terrible himself shit with fear).

Nearly every portion of character creation can be rolled leading to amusing tales of a peasant, a noble, a doctor, and a sailor getting together to claim a lost dwarven stronghold. Depending on what career you roll up, you might not even start with a proper weapon, and you can forget starting with armour. You might have enough starting gold to get a decent pair of boots or a leather skullcap though, but any chainmail you get is probably moth-eaten and nabbed off a dead bandit. Money is also hard to come by and difficult to work with not only because it's non-metric like old British money (a gold crown is 20 shillings, 1 shilling is 12 bronze pennies, etc.) but also because there is a good chance that you go into the next state and it is worthless because nobody recognises it. The best "class" is ratcatcher, as it has the most important piece of equipment in the game, a small but vicious dog; the downside to being a ratcatcher is you have to wade through waist-deep levels of shit to club rats for very little pay, and you can't talk about the ratmen you keep encountering down there because the people who do tend to be never heard from again. Seriously, being a ratcatcher is the most thankless and pitiful job ever.

There are four races in the main game: Humans, elves, dwarfs and halflings.

  • Humans have balanced states and the widest selection of possible careers with the best progression. They can come from all walks of life and various places. The rulebook snarkily points out that you should know about these and how to play them.
  • Dwarfs are an ancient race nominally allied with humanity, their empire was shattered by a cataclysm and a war with the elves long ago and now they are dying out in part because they wage constant war with basically everyone - Dwarfs in this world are pathologically obsessed with retribution; a human noble once found an army of angry dwarfs seeking to kill him and ransack his castle because centuries ago his ancestor cheated the dwarf stonecutters he employed to build it out of twelve pennies, then after they won they went home and listed all the casualties in the battle as a separate grudge to be settled again later. They have decent stats but skew towards "slow but strong" and have their own unique career options.
  • Elves are pretty, talented with magic and have a glorious and tragic history. If you are an elf either you are from one of the hidden forest enclaves in human territory, or one of the great trade cities like Marienburg or Altdorf. They have excellent stats, a base movement as fast as a horse, don't need to pay tuition fees if you want to be a mage and their unique career list lacks a lot of the suckier options. The obvious downside to being an elf however, is that you are an elf. Elves are hated in most places for being snobby jackholes and any given country town is populated by superstitous racists who will cheerfully greet you with torches and chopping implements. Many parts of the world have an "Ear tax" that applies to elves - basically, you pay a silver or you lose an ear.
  • Halflings are the inverse of the elves. They have miserable stats, the lowest strength, weapon skill and toughness scores and the lowest number of wounds. So why play one? Two reasons. First, because halflings are practically immune to Chaos corruption - they can juggle pieces of wyrdstone with no ill effects when other races trying that can expect for their lower jaw to fall out and be replaced by tentacles. Second, because they are the only race who won't face racism... much, because nobody cares enough about halflings to hate them.

The system in general, especially in combat, is extremely (and often hilariously) lethal, and has many rules for crippling injuries and critical hits. This can cause, for example, a lowly badger bite to result in the loss of limbs, and turns attempting to mount a horse into a dangerous endeavour only undertaken by the most foolhardy of warriors. For the true WFRP experience however, there is an epic compilation of expanded injury rules and tables created by an ER doctor who read the original injury ruleset in all its glory and all its horror and decided to spice it up a bit, gruesomely depicting the kind of damage these primitive weapons would have on human bodies. Disease is also a fact of life and saomething your characters will not get away from; it is entirely possible that in protecting a hamlet from zombies, you catch a contagion and you perish five days later after your eyes rot out. Poultices are valuable, and magical healing is worth more than gold.

It is also probably the only high fantasy universe, in which magic is not (terribly) OP. Not so much because the rules don't have spells that can deal 4*1d10+4 damage every hit having a chance to be critical, dealing another 1d10 damage, which keeping in mind that a PC min/maxed and lucky too can at most have 22 hitpoints and 13 damage reduction is quite a bit. No. It's because of the fact casting even a lowly fireball has the chance to open a rift to the realm of Chaos that sucks you in so your ass can be eternally fucked by Slaanesh. There are a lot of arcane Lores you can specialise in (Beasts, Death, Fire, Heavens, Life, Light, Metal and Shadow) and being a wizard means being inducted into the College to be sanctioned. Don't be an unsanctioned magic user, or you can expect a visit from a gang of scowling, heavily-armed men eager for a little chat. But being part of a school of magic actually changes you fundamentally as you become seeped in the magic - if you join the Bright Order, expect your hair to become bright orange, your body to carry a lingering smell of sulphur, and leave ash and scorch marks everywhere you touch.

Perhaps the biggest claim to fame for the system is the extreme amounts of character classes available to players. While the base game is generally rather simple (start as noob wizard, then shit wizard, then ok wizard etc) additional books have added a shocking amount of player choice. Want to be a rat catcher or a slave? How about a Grail Knight or a Vampire? Want to play a warp stone sniffing Skaven or champion of Nurgle? All of these are options. The career system is in many ways better than the static class system employed by D&D because character progression feels a lot more organic and spontaneous and less reliant on "builds". You can start out as a mercenary, aim to move up to join a knightly order, but then you meet up with some dwarfs and instead learn to become a shield-breaker with them. Highly recommended is playing with the Career Companion (even if the book itself is rarer than pieces of the holy cross) since it adds literally hundreds of classes from all the released books, but be aware that some aspects they add (like new types of magic) are not in the book and might require some extra legwork or modulation to figure out.

It has a Warhammer: Age of Sigmar counterpart in the form of Warhammer: Age of Sigmar Roleplay: Soulbound.

Editions

Over the years, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay has had four editions, with much skub over which one is best. The only thing that anyone can seem to agree on is 3rd Edition was shit.

First Edition

Published by Games Workshop themselves in 1986, First Edition is... strange. It was made before a lot of Fantasy's setting had solidified into what we know today, and it shows. Karl Franz is a weak old man who is assassinated part way through one of the modules for example. The game was a gleeful mashup of the Basic Roleplaying System used by Runequest and Call of Cthulhu with AD&D, bringing the dynamics of humans, elfs, dwarves, and halflings into a gritty, dirt covered world where every combat had a good chance of permanently maiming a character. The combination was an instant classic, and Empire In Flames was an iconic introduction to the Old World that would go onto inspire many authors, including William King's Gotrek and Felix series.

Second Edition

Published by Green Ronin in 2004, Second Edition mostly built on the first. It faced the unenviable job of matching the increasingly high fantasy bent world the tabletop game was building with the low power feel of the first editions, not always gracefully but in general it managed. It was notable for adding a number of new careers, including the aforementioned Chaos Champion, Grail Knight, and Vampire paths. The flaws of second edition mostly came down to the era when it was released, where companies were pumping out books quicker and quicker, often with high railroading, which can lead to problems in a system where combat is so lethal. Still, the books for Bretonia, Norsca, Kislev and the Border Princes are generally considered high marks, and you can always play the old modules with the new ruleset. Also the Skaven book, which in addition to letting you play as Skaven in campaigns, also gave some of the most in-depth background to the teeming little ratmen in existence and is a good read for anyone interested their fluff.

The second edition divided the ridiculous large amount of skills into actual skills and talents. Skills existed as Basic Skills, i.e: skills that any character could roll for, even without being trained in the skill, but with a penalty of halving the Characteristic and rounding up, and as Advanced Skills which required the training, no matter what. Talents were in turn, for the most part, advantages that influenced the use of Skills, Characteristics or Actions, either at all times or under special circumstances.

Another thing that the second edition has sorted out positively were Skill Groups by making use of categorization. Skill Groups refered to skills that consisted of "sub-skills", but where each sub-skill counts as a standalone Skill that had to be learned in order to be used without any penalties. Examples of Skill Groups were skills like Common Knowledge: Land X and Common Knowledge: Land Y. Both skills belong to the Common Knowledge skill group but are actually two standalone skills. While not a change in the mechanic itself, the way this is presented in the Corebook allowed both the GM and the players to see through how the system has been built without being overwhelmed by a clusterfuck of 100+ uncategorized skills, like in the first edition. The same method has been applied to Talents, i.e: Talent Groups.

While 1E made use of the standard set of dice (d4, d6, d8, d10 etc) of other popular Roleplaying Games, the second edition made use of two d10 exclusively, incorporating D% in Characteristic and Skill tests, and 1 or 2d10 for damage rolls.

Third Edition, aka the bad one

Published by Fantasy Flight in 2009, having acquired the rights to both WFRP and its sister game Dark Heresy, Third Edition is almost universally reviled by fans. Ditching d% for funky custom dice, tokens, and a pile of cards, Third Edition was more board game than RPG, and the box set (because it never independently released the book) only had enough for three players and the GM. Meanwhile, the story itself was much more heavily weighted toward high fantasy cooperation between Humans, Elves, and Dwarves, generally leaning away from the blood, mud, and shit that had characterized first and second editions, robbing the series of everything that made it special. The game was only active for 3 years before Fantasy Flight declared it dead, and good riddance. That being said, a lot of the ideas from this game and transfer them into the Star Wars Roleplaying Game, which is generally playable. Generally.

Fourth Edition

Published by Cubicle 7 in 2018, 4e is a return to the ideas of first and second edition. D% is back! No cards or tokens! It basically puts us right back where we were in 2004, which could be bad or could be good, hard to tell at this point. The biggest change the system makes is combat. Combat is now a series of opposed skill tests, with damage being dealt if the attacker outdoes the defender in Success Levels, even if both are in the negatives. That means it's possible to hit an enemy AND critically fumble, but also reduces the whiff factor that plagues early levels of a lot of percentile systems. Time will tell if this edition will live up to its predecessors. After months of playing, 4th edition is like second one, I can say fights are fast and positioning is more critical, magic is more consistent, and set of optional rules let GMs to choose how heroic their warhammer will be. Only problem? Cubicle 7 screwed proofreading and there's a lot of errata to take into account. Though PDFs (and probably newer print) have been updated and do not require an errata (for now at least). Shooting is overpowered, though.

There was also some amount of controversy over the character artwork, which had things such as a black wandering Merchant and an obese Smuggler. Much polite and calm debate was had over this matter and its place within the Warhammer Fantasy universe.

Because Fourth Edition seems mostly as a way of reliving the glory days of First (and occasionally Second) edition, most of the published materials are translations or rewrites of first or second edition adventures.