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A [[NSFW]] encylopedia fleshing out a setting of [[monstergirls]] written and impressively illustrated by Japanese hentai creator Kenkou Cross.  The artwork is great (if somewhat contentious in content).  Some of the premises are as interesting as they are [[/d/|"enjoyable"]].  What's the problem?  Well, while everyone more or less likes the entries themselves, the setting around them is pure [[skub]].
A [[NSFW]] encylopedia fleshing out a setting of [[monstergirls]] written and impressively illustrated by Japanese hentai creator Kenkou Cross.  The artwork is great (if somewhat contentious in content).  Some of the premises are as interesting as they are [[/d/|"enjoyable"]].  What's the problem?  Well, while everyone more or less likes the entries themselves, the setting around them is pure [[skub]].

Revision as of 20:27, 3 August 2015

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This article or section is about Monstergirls (or a monster that is frequently depicted as a Monstergirl), something that /tg/ widely considers to be the purest form of awesome. Expect PROMOTIONS! and /d/elight in equal measure, often with drawfaggotry or writefaggotry to match.

A NSFW encylopedia fleshing out a setting of monstergirls written and impressively illustrated by Japanese hentai creator Kenkou Cross. The artwork is great (if somewhat contentious in content). Some of the premises are as interesting as they are "enjoyable". What's the problem? Well, while everyone more or less likes the entries themselves, the setting around them is pure skub.

The Setting

A brief summary is pretty simple. A Succubus has become Monster Lord, god-like ruler of all monsters. Taking the throne for herself, the Succubus has enacted a plan to bring about her vision of peace upon the world: transforming all monsters into lusty monstergirls, known in universe as mamono, and setting them out to score themselves human husbands. Peace through mutually-ensured copulation, you might say. She even convinces the Hero who is sent to slay her to join her in her rebellion against the Chief God and become her husband.

The Factions

Monster Lord

The aforementioned Big Chief Succubus, her human husband, their daughters, and pretty much every freaking mamono in the world. Want to bring about peace between humans and monsters by making human man/monstergirl relationships the norm of the world. To be fair, though, the vast majority of "normal" mamono don't really have a lot of ideological indoctrination so much as help her goals by trying to find someone to slip 'em the d - the Monster Lord basically leeches off of their "mamono mana", which increases when they fuck, to boost her own strength.

Thanks to blatant creator favoritism, the Monster Lord has so many ludicrously-overblown advantages piled up on her side it's honestly more incredible she hasn't instantly won the conflict seconds after starting it. And the fact that her ideal world would look like Brave New World as run by a particularly sick combination of Nurgle and Slaanesh is something of a turn-off for a lot of readers. Seriously, go read this page, mentally find+replace all the furry stuff with this-setting stuff, and see how accurate all the descriptions still are. It's scary.

Part of her eventual endgame involves causing monsters to have male incubus children, in addition to their own female offspring. Again, most monsters have no interest in actively conquering human lands so complete assimilation of humans into the "new humanity consisting of incubi and monster girls" will, probably, take a while. It's been a few centuries now and things are still in a relative stalemate, though every once in a while something dramatic happens, especially since lately one of her daughters, Derulla, has taken it upon herself to probe the human kingdoms for weak links, and has already destroyed the nation of Lescatier by exploiting its internal flaws.

Sabbath

A sub-faction under the Monster Lord's banner, led by baphomet mamono and primarily staffed by cults of witches, many of whom joined for "eternal youth" without reading the side effects too closely. This group is comprised entirely of loli mamono and is dedicated to spreading lolidom (in both senses of the word) over the world. Or, in other words, they want to convert women into loli mamono, convert non-loli mamono into loli form, and convert human men into "Big Brothers" (lolicons). They're the monster's primary source of R&D for various weird and sexy inventions. While each branch of the Sabbath is run by a baphomet, the organization as a whole is led by the strongest baphomet of all. This same baphomet also leads the Mamono Lord's army and holds considerable influence in the world of monsters. Surprisingly she is noted to still be single, perhaps because baphomet normally only marry men who can beat them in battle, but more-probably so the lolicons in the audience can still hold onto hope of tappin' dat semi-jailbait ass.

Zipangu

The not!Japan of the setting, not technically loyal to the Monster Lord but still held up as the shining example of what she wants to achieve, with humans and monstergirls living together relatively peacefully, though often with monsters dominating humanity in the bargain. Would be Mary Sue if they had a bigger role in the world instead of being in the ass end of nowhere, but what do you expect when the creator is Japanese? Often a source of various "Eastern" versions of already-released mamono. Whether this is a bad thing really depends on your perspective, as well as the degree to which they successfully differentiate themselves from their predecessors.

The Land of Mists

Like Zipangu, only not!Chinese instead of not!Japanese.

Pandemonium

A faction operating out of a timeless demiplane. Allied to a high tier god called "the Fallen God", they're basically extremists on the Monster Lord's plan who seek to convert men and women to go to a dimension (Pandemonium) that consists essentially of one eternal, never-ending orgy. KC only made three profiles for this faction - the Dark Angel, Dark Valkyries and the Dark Priest - and often doesn't touch it for ages between profiles, probably because they tended to be the biggest fuel for the "anti-mamono interpretation" of the setting in the early days due to the rather limited lifestyle they subject their converts to. Hilariously, compared to the Monster Lord, they're practically vanilla: their "priests" basically find one guy they like and stick with him forever, and none of them seem to go in for rape when "conversion" is much more fun. Moreover, since they have their own dimension, they aren't all that interested in altering the rest of the world, instead seeking converts to leave with them for Pandemonium.

The Gods

The original masters of the world, led by a Chief God, who was gravely injured by the Monster Lord and her husband while trying to kill them both to stop their plans. Currently split between those who support the Monster Lord's plan and those who support the Chief God in trying to slay the Monster Lord and return things to the original cycle. Mentioned goddesses in the first faction include Poseidon, Eros, and Ares. Hilariously, every single god thus far introduced has been a goddess, and not one of them is named after a deity that was originally female. Derp.

In all honesty, many fans find the Chief God (who isn't the original Chief God) far more sympathetic than the Monster Lord. Yes, she wants to bring back the old cycle, which is bad, but otherwise she doesn't really work as a villain. KC has admitted that she was a rookie, and she knows this and that she's over her head. She's still hurt from a thwarted attempt at smiting the current Monster Lord and her husband, and she has no idea what she's doing, but she's trying to do a good job and set things "right" as far as she understands it, because that's what's expected of her. She's so ineffectual as a villain, especially with how stacked things are in the Monster Lord's favor, that many fans want to comfort her rather than see her lose.

To try and counter this, KC has put out that it's officially fact that the Chief God will accept nothing less than the restoration of the old cycle, and doing so will result in countless grisly deaths as every former-mamono reverts to a man-eating monster and devours her spouse. Unfortunately, rather than instantly silence his critics, it has only made the setting look like a "you're fucked either way" sort of deal. (Pun semi-intended.)

The Order

The chief religion of the setting and a fairly standard Weeaboo take on Medieval semi-Christianity. Dedicated to the Chief God first and foremost, their duty is to ensure humanity lives safe, moral lives. To this end, they train divinely-empowered Heroes to go out and fight monsters. It's kind of unclear if they don't know that the new Monster Lord wants to end the cycle, or if they do know and are deliberately lying to general people so they still believe that all mamono want to kill and eat them.

A lot of fans like to portray them as essentially a fantasy take on the Imperium of Man, but, really, that particular interpretation doesn't hold much water. If nothing else they aren't racist, having been on excellent terms with a number of non-human races before current events left humankind alone. Shit, settings material outright states that monsters are always happy when the Order comes crusadin', because it means they're about to enjoy the fantasy equivalent of a massive speed dating party. Due to the very nature of their teachings, the Order's men are such good people that most of them can't bring themselves to actually hurt a mamono when they meet one. Consequently, mamono consider Order men damn fine husbando material, and are eager to capture and "convert" them when they show up.

There are Order soldiers and heroes who will kill monsters readily of course, but given monsters will still fight and even kill to defend themselves it's dangerous work. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on one's perspective), the goddess of war is on the Demon Lord's side, and getting killed in battle is rare, so lots of beaten knights just end up getting convinced "the hard way."

(Unintentional) Grimdarkness

The original Chief God created humans, but for an unknown reason worried about their numbers. So he/she created monsters to slaughter humans in sufficient numbers to cull them. Then he created the program of the Heroes and the Monster Lord; the Heroes get empowered when humans are too weak to disrupt the monsters' attack by killing their demigod leader, the Monster Lord, throwing monsterkind into disarray so that humanity has time to recover, and then eventually a new Monster Lord rises up and starts the same shit over again. He also forced the other gods to get in on this - Poseidon supports the new Monster Lord because she's sick of having to kill people with tidal waves, storms, and sea monster attacks.

Think the new Monster Lord is any better? Only if you don't mind the fact that she's bungling her job, and so mamono have swapped "kill and eat humans" for "kidnap and rape" humans. Or the fact her stated goal is to drive human women extinct so human men have to marry monstergirls, and so she is actively seeking to convert (physically and mentally transform) all women into mamono. To say nothing of the fact that, because the Monster Lord and new Chief God are fighting, a side-effect is that mamono can only birth more mamono, rather than mamono daughters and human sons as per her preferred endgame. So, potentially, the Monster Lord could cause a fucking extinction event if she doesn't sort something out before there are no human women left and all the human men are dead of old age. And she's not slowing down on the "convert all human women into mamono" front anytime soon, by the way.

Kenkou Cross has taken the observations on his setting's grimdarkness poorly, to say the least. According to him, the encyclopedia descriptions were in fact grossly exaggerating both the nymphomania of the monstergirls and the intentions of the monster lord- and that the unintended grimdarkness was in fact the product of shoddy translation work. As a result, he forced the most popular website supporting of his work to cease hosting translated versions of his material when they refused to ban anyone espousing those interpretations, and only lets other sites host them on the condition that they prevent anyone from voicing their unhappy opinions.

He also likes to argue that the "blame" lies squarely on his Western fandom, since they don't get the overworked-Japanese-salaryman mindset that apparently makes his setting such a paradise. It hasn't worked because, really, when you get right down to brass tacks, his little tantrum boils down to the DM failing to understand why anyone wouldn't want to enter his magical realm unless there was something wrong with them, compounded with the fact that letting his penis do all the thinking blinded him to the unintentional grimdarkness he was putting in without even realizing it. So if he didn't want it to be grimdark, he shouldn't have written himself into a corner where grimdarkness was the only logical explanation for how everything was still working. Though admittedly his attitude wasn't helped by anti-fans sending him hate-mail and death threats.

Oh, by the way: if the Chief God wins, then all those sexy monstergirls? Will immediately revert back to being hideous monsters, and the mamono mindset of "love humans" will be forced to return to "kill humans" and most monsters will not be able to resist it. So a Chief God victory means restarting the original cycle, and anyone who has a mamono lover, is going to wind up being killed and eaten by his wife. And this time it isn't hyperbole, that's plain and explicit fact, straight from KC, so that's one bit of grimdarkness he's actively promoting, to make the Monster Lord seem the better choice.

Potential Triggers [TRIGGER WARNING]

  • Almost all monsters are [TRIGGER WARNING]rapists and have bizarre views of [TRIGGER WARNING]rape. To put that into context, they don't understand how [TRIGGER WARNING]rape could be wrong, believing that [TRIGGER WARNING]rape is an expression of love and that no harm is done if both parties gain sexual pleasure from it. They don't think that there is anything wrong with a man [TRIGGER WARNING] raping a women either so they plain don't see anything wrong with [TRIGGER WARNING] rape instead of holding a double standard. That said, the [TRIGGER WARNING] rape is usually the highly-idealized "surprise sex you didn't know you wanted" kind rather than the more-realistic "ultimate violation of another being" kind.
  • There is [TRIGGER WARNING] paedophilia everywhere, and it's max creepy. No, seriously. And in some cases it's not even the "adult in a childs body" kind of thing, some of these girls are depicted as being so young both physically and mentally that it's fucking creepy as hell.
    • Dwarves in particular look practically toddler-like. What's worse, the dwarf men apparently found their new women so hot that they eagerly supported the conversion, and now they're mostly extinct. (Used to be all, but thank God for retcons!) At least they apparently still act like dwarves.
    • Alices are "eternal virgins". After you fuck one, she completely forgets what happened. KC tried to retcon this by revealing that they remember it subconsciously and eventually wander off to "Wonderland" where they get over this part, but seriously. Oh, and they also release a field that will mind [TRIGGER WARNING] rape you so that even if you wouldn't initially tap that ass, eventually, you will. So, no matter your official stance on the topic to begin with, eventually, you're going to snap, [TRIGGER WARNING] rape an innocent little succubus-girl, and then become her obsessive stalker who keeps surprise [TRIGGER WARNING] raping her because she keeps forgetting what sex is after you're done. Fucking hell.
    • The Sabbath (the aforementioned loli-superiority cult) also run official mamono preschools, which they also use as brothels. There, they both happily let the girls fuck anyone who comes to visit and recruit new "members" from the [TRIGGER WARNING] pedophiles who come by.
    • If a mamano is into that then they'll have a passive effect that causes their husband to stay childlike in appearance.
    • Mamono daughters sometimes start craving sex at about preschool age. And they'll happily fuck their dads if they can't get anyone else. And most mamono moms will not only let them, they'll fucking help them. Further proof that only shitlords like this setting.
    • At the very least though, thank God, KC has confirmed that mamono don't [TRIGGER WARNING] rape human children. It sucks that we even have to reassure you of this in the first place, but it's still a step in the right direction. Though if an unmated mamano adopts an orphaned human child then they'll start a Hikaru Genji plan (raise him to be a spouse later). It should be noted that nothing is said about consensual sex between children since mamono children start getting sexual urges at young ages.
  • If you're gay, the Monster Lord doesn't want you - getting exposed to "mamono mana" will transform you into either a lusty succubus variant called an Alp (if you were a gay dude) or into a mamono (if you were a lesbian) who craves dick just as much as any other mamono. And while lesbian trysts are at least somewhat supported in-setting, expect penis to show up at some point, one way or another. This demonization (Literally) of homosexuality is fucking creepy awful and I hate it. KC is a fucking misogynerd.
  • "Mamono mana" terraforms the world around monsters into the Monster Lord's vision of heaven. So even if you don't want to get involved, just letting monstergirls fuck their husbandos nearby will eventually poison the land you live on, causing more mamono to literally pop out of nowhere - your freaking pets and livestock may spontaneously transform into beastman-type mamono, and that's just for starters - plus, the very air will slowly mind[TRIGGER WARNING]rape you into supporting the Monster Lord. There are places where these effects are somewhat reduced ("green mamono realms," generally held up as KC's ineffectual attempt to water down the poison in the Kool-Aid to get his critics to drink it), but their exact nature and frequency are not always well-described. Additionally bright green mamono realms are often subtle enough that humans in it don't notice it's monster realm, complete with the corrupting effects.

For more information...

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