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A '''Hexblade''' is an arcane/martial hybrid [[class]] in [[Dungeons & Dragons]].


==3rd Edition D&D==
In [[3e]] he is more or less an arcane [[Paladin]], just slightly worse.
He has curses, full base attack bonus progression ''(+1 per level like a fighter)'', a companion familiar ''(instead of a mount)'', has good will saves, casts magic spontaneously, has a big hit die and gets the occasional bonus feat dedicated to improving spellcasting.
The class is superficially like a [[Duskblade]], which is also a hybrid Arcane/Martial class. Unfortunately Hexblades do not start with the ability to cast spells and only casts fewer spells-per-day, on the plus side their spell list are improved making them slightly more variable than Duskblades, but unfortunately that's where the comparison ends.
As a caster, he cannot wear anything heavier than light armor, his other saves suck dick and cannot be good ''(becoming so results in the loss of all your powers and your familiar)''. Also, his class features don't entirely mesh well with his function, since cursing and arcane resistance is all well and good, his spellcasting abilities do not make him a replacement for the group's primary arcane caster and without any combat features he doesn't stand up front as a fighter either. So the Hexblade doesn't really work as either a Caster or a Warrior. Duskblades do this much better.
He will also need a combination of Charisma (for his spells), Strength (for his attacks), Dexterity (to not die) and Constitution (also to not die), leading to heavy [[MAD]].  [[Pathfinder]] would later port the hexblade as an archetype of the [[Magus]] class, called a ''hexcrafter''.  They sacrifice their ''spell recall'' ability to gain access to curses in their spell list and the ability to learn [[witch]] hexes instead of magus arcana.
===Making Hexblades Work===
You will be best served by taking spells that increase your own fighting abilities and survivability through not getting hit: by picking your spells wisely you can fill up a few niches as they up, from flanking an enemy and serving as the rear guard to punishing enemy casters. Do note that the class is [[Tier System|not considered to be very good]], because while the Hexblade can fill certain openings as they fall he cannot fill them as good as someone fit for that job can.
Prestige class options are very similar to the Duskblade options, made slightly easier to qualify later in your career since you have a broader range of spells.  Unfortunately it can't really be said which way you "should" go, since you picked a character class that didn't really have a job to start with.
'''Dragon Disciple''' from the core rules works for the Hexblade moreso than Bards or Sorcerers who have to give up much of their spellcasting potential in order to gain buffs that take them out of their comfort zones. As a "Fighting class" who can spontaneously cast, sacrificing most of your spellcasting ability ''(no great loss)'' for a series of permanent physical buffs that could help steer your character into a front line role, rather than the confused position the Hexblade normally occupies. Though unlike the Prestige class options noted below, the BAB of the Dragon Disciple follows the 3/4 progression of the cleric, so you do trade away some accuracy for the added strength ''(which net-outweighs the BAB loss unless you're looking for an extra attack early on)'' defense and class features, so it's your call...
'''Abjurant Champion''' from ''Complete Mage'' works acceptably, since it improves your combat abilities by allowing you to burn unused spell slots for temporary bonuses. Other features improve your survivability, but this is mostly situational since your caster list does not include Mage Armor as standard, so you'll have to settle by augmenting your other protection spells, such as Shield.
If you are Elf/Half-Elf, the '''Bladesinger''' class works alright with Hexblade levels, though it means fencing yourself into a duelist role by fighting one-handed and makes you more [[MAD]] considering that it needs INT to function to its best. Just don't take it too far, as you start losing out on class features as you can already cast in light armor.
'''Spellsword''' is where you want to be if you want to stick it as a Hexblade and improve your combat abilities, though you need to have both Medium/Heavy armor proficiency and level 2 spells, meaning you need be around level 8+ to take this class.
If you can pick up the ''Rage'' ability from somewhere, either by multi-classing one level of Barbarian ''(or taking the '''Eye of Gruumsh''' prestige class if you are Half-Orc/Orc)'' then '''Rage Mage''' might be the class for you, while it improves neither your spellcasting or your BAB to its best possible ability, the class features do synergize well with the Hexblade, allowing you to cast spells while raging and wear medium armor without penalty.
One thing that actually does kick ass about hexblades is their familiar. Normally, familiars kinda suck because they have to run off your stats, and you're a wizard living in fear of rats and [[Cat|kittens]]. Hexblades, however, get a familiar that runs off the stats of a combat class, meaning they have pretty good hit points and attack bonuses. This also opens up the possibility of improved familiars, which are featured in the same book, and some require a good Base Attack (which you have), meaning you can get yourself [[Space Wolves|a winter wolf]] instead of a cat. Alternatively, you can swap it out to gain a Dark Companion, which lets you give enemies a -2 to saving throws. Take a few levels in [[Paladin]] of Tyranny, and you're looking at a -4 in total, which means enemies are going to be failing their saves a lot. And even then, you can still use the Obtain Familiar feat to buy yourself a familiar back - which is actually the better option, because of how familiars work.
===When All Else Fails===
[[Mike Mearls]], the guy who created the hexblade, acknowledged that he'd fucked up a bit, and posted this on the WOTC forums. DMs will probably allow it, but ask first.
''The hexblade suffers a little because he came on the scene relatively early in 3.5's life. As R&D pushes the boundaries of the game, we learn that some things we thought were risky or potentially broken aren't. Other times, we learn things that look fine don't actually work in play. Armored mages fall into the first category. Them seem really powerful, but in the long run they aren't. Spells and magic items allow an unarmored mage to build great defenses. The spell mage armor is as good as medium armor, and its duration allows most mages to keep it active at all times. If you compare the hexblade to the duskblade from PH 2, you can see how the thinking has changed. If you want to boost the hexblade, I'd try the following changes:''
''Good Fortitude save''
''Curse ability usable 1 + the hexblade's Cha modifier per day''
''Curse ability usable as a swift action''
''Curse ability does not count as used if the target makes his saving throw''
''Ability to cast in light or medium armor and while carrying a light shield or buckler''
''At 6th level, the hexblade can cast one hexblade spell per day as a swift action, as long as its original casting time is a standard action or faster. He gains an additional use of this power at levels 8, 11, 14, and 18.''
''The key to the hexblade is his curse ability, but it's a little un-fun to have it so limited in use. The hexblade also has trouble casting spells and using his melee attacks, so shifting spells to swift actions fits in with the idea of an armored mage. (These are by no means official. They're just off the top of my head changes I'd consider making.)''
==4th Edition D&D==
In [[4e]] they work differently. Like a [[Warlock]] a Hexblade has forged a pact with powerful entities like the Fey or Fiends, but instead of getting PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWAH he gets a sword instead. Most of the time the Hexblade's patron gives this so that it [[Khorne|can be used to shed blood/souls of the unbelievers for the glory of the <strike>blood god</strike> Hexblade's patron]]. They use their sword in one hand and an implement in the other, making for an offense-oriented character. As above, they require a combination of Charisma, Strength, Dexterity and Constitution to work, making them still [[MAD]] across editions.
==5th Edition D&D==
In [[5e]], hexblades work differently yet again. They ultimately figured "you know what, screw it; this is basically a [[gish]]y [[warlock]]" and tried to make it work from that angle.
In the PHB, warlocks are presented with the "Pact of the Blade" class feature. This gives the warlock a free magical weapon that they can power up via various "Eldritch Invocations" and which they can turn into whatever shape they want. It was...underwhelming, because the warlock was still a caster class first and foremost, making it very squishy. Still, at least it tried.
Then, "Hexblade" was added as an actual subclass for the warlock. Whilst the fluff was atrocious, not least of which was that you were somehow drawing power from an intelligent magical weapon - and ''didn't need to take the Pact of the Blade feature'', the mechanics are... well, decently solid. his pledge makes the warlock more of a melee combatant, in the vein of the class it takes its name from; their two level 1 features are Hexblade's Curse (1/short rest, place a curse on a foe within 30ft that makes your attacks more likely to hit and heals you if they die whilst cursed) and Hex Warrior (you can enchant one-handed weapons you are proficient with to use Charisma for their attack & damage rolls; if you've the Pact of the Blade, your Pact Weapon always has this trait no matter the form it takes, also you get free proficiency with medium armor, shields and martial weapons). At level 6, they gain Accursed Specter (raise a slain humanoid as a loyal specter 1/day). Their level 10 feature, Armor of Hexes, buffs up their curse by letting the warlock negate a cursed opponent's attack against them on a 4+. Finally, at level 14, they get Master of Hexes, which lets them forgo the healing effect for dropping a cursed opponent to instead immediately reapply that curse to a fresh opponent. Its bonus spells are close-ranged, a mixture of protective spells (shield, blur, blink) and temporary weapon enchantments - the only exceptions are Phantasmal Killer and Cone of Cold.
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