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* Category Zero: A female character is simply clad in regular armor that is identical to what male characters have and is purely functional in design. If it has any ornamentation, it is simply the sort of ornamentation that is common for that region. Some examples include chainmail shirt and a helmet, a suit of plate, gear worn by modern female soldiers in combat situations, etc.  
* Category Zero: A female character is simply clad in regular armor that is identical to what male characters have and is purely functional in design. If it has any ornamentation, it is simply the sort of ornamentation that is common for that region. Some examples include chainmail shirt and a helmet, a suit of plate, gear worn by modern female soldiers in combat situations, etc.  
* Category One: Armor is specifically made to be worn by women, but is still functional. Ornamentation, if present can be more feminine. Think of the difference between a man's and a woman's suit. Cat One armor is either as good or better for a female wearer than Cat Zero armor.
* Category One: Armor is specifically made to be worn by women, but is still functional. Ornamentation, if present can be more feminine. Think of the difference between a man's and a woman's suit. Cat One armor is either as good or better for a female wearer than Cat Zero armor.
* Category Two: (Boobplate) Specific to plate armor, this involves a pair of boobs being hammered into a breastplate. This will direct a sword blow (or worse: a bullet) inward towards the heart. A simple raised section in the armor to accommodate breasts would fall into Category One. Special note has to go to the real world Greek Muscle cuirass which had sculpted boob plates, only it was worn by men (ie the [[Sanguinary Guard]]), and further only by officers, making it a rare case of male category 2 or 1. That said, since a six pack and abs is flatter than a pair of boobs it's much less of an issue.  
* Category Two: (Boobplate) Specific to plate armor, this involves a pair of boobs being hammered into a breastplate. This will direct a sword blow (or worse: a bullet) inward towards the heart. A simple raised section in the armor to accommodate breasts would fall into Category One. Special note has to go to the real world Greek Muscle cuirass which had sculpted boob plates, only it was worn by men (ie the [[Sanguinary Guard]]), and further only by officers, making it a rare case of male Cat 2 or 1. That said, since a six pack and abs is flatter than a pair of boobs it's much less of an issue.  
* Category Three: Female armor which is really really tightly fitting, thus making it hard to put on or take off, decreasing its effectiveness as armor and making it hard to move in.
* Category Three: Female armor which is really, really tight fitting, thus making it hard to put on or take off, decreasing its effectiveness as armor, and making it hard to move comfortably in.
* Category Four: Armor with exposed cleavage, midriffs and similar, leaving portions of the body exposed for blades, spears and arrows. Also appearing at this point are high heels, and not the kind intended for riding.
* Category Four: Armor with exposed cleavage, midriffs and similar, leaving portions of the body exposed for blades, spears and arrows. Also appearing at this point are high heels, and not the kind intended for riding.
* Category Five: Chainmail and plate bikinis. At this point we are not dealing with armor but [[/d/|rather armor-themed stripper costumes]] [[Rule 34|whose only purpose is for pure fanservice.]] The male example is roman gladiator armor which usually only consisted of armor on a single arm and a belt, and, like Cat 5 armor, it was intended mostly for spectacle rather than utility.
* Category Five: Chainmail and plate bikinis. At this point we are not dealing with armor but [[/d/|rather armor-themed stripper costumes]] [[Rule 34|whose only purpose is for pure fanservice.]] The male example is Roman gladiator armor which usually only consisted of armor on a single arm and a belt, and, like lady Cat 5 armor, was intended for spectacle rather than utility.
* Category Six: Included only for completeness sake, a cat 6 is no armor and no clothing, runing into battle completely naked. This was historically done by males of certain cultures such as the [[Viking|Norse]] and Celts. Interestingly the Celts and Vikings were also known for having female warriors meaning category 1 and category 3 and 6 (more so Celts than Vikings), as none of these people used plate armor, this is the most likely option on this list for [[FAIL|West-specific]] historical accuracy and [[Rage|"artistic license of historical events"]], which is kinda pathetic if you think about it. Scythians and Sarmatians would fall under category under category one.
 


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File:USCMJV.png|Jenette Vasquez from Aliens in Category Zero. As seen with Hudson as a comparison, her armor looks exactly like the ones male marines use (apart from the extra equipment used to allow her to use a Smartgun system).
File:USCMJV.png|Jenette Vasquez from Aliens in Category Zero. As seen with Hudson as a comparison, her armor looks exactly like that of the male marines use, apart from the extra equipment used to wield a Smartgun system.
File:Elspeth Tirel.jpg|[[Elspeth Tirel]] shows off a suit of Category One: while being without a helmet and with a flowing long robe this is the standard suit of armor for the knights of [[Alara|Bant]], who will not exploit these two weaknesses when fighting their honorable duels.
File:Elspeth Tirel.jpg|[[Elspeth Tirel]] shows off an ornamental suit of Category One.
File:Hammer-and-anvil.jpg|Sister Miriya of the [[Sisters of Battle]] in Category Two. Category Two armor is generally the most acceptable form of female armor for most fantasy fans since it logically looks like it can protect the user while remaining aesthetically pleasing.
File:Hammer-and-anvil.jpg|Sister Miriya of the [[Sisters of Battle]] in Category Two. Category Two armor is generally the most acceptable form of female armor for most fantasy fans since it ''looks'' like something that's both recognizably feminine and reasonably protective.
File:Myar.jpg|An [[Eldar]] Farseer in Category three. Although, while it is tight-fitting, Eldar mesh armor is designed to be tight while still allowing users free movement. Plus, while the picture is of a woman, Eldar men wear the exact same armor making this an out of universe type three, but in universe type two since she still has a boob plate (to clarify, male Eldar banshees are expected by [[Khaine]] [[derp|to wear these too, and the other 12 Warrior Paths and Guardians completely lack it, but Autarchs and Farseers use it.]])  Regardless, sculpting the armor with a navel is excessive (for those who think that's what Eldar abs look like, refer to the next pic).  
File:Myar.jpg|An [[Eldar]] Farseer in Category Three. While eldar armor mesh removes many of the problems of this type of armor, sculpting the navel is probably a bit much.  Also, [[derp| even the ''male'' Banshees have to wear the boobplate]].
File:Lelith Hesperax Huge.jpg|[[Lelith Hesperax]] in a Category Four/Five Hybrid. While it can't protect her, it is nearly impossible to strike Lelith in the first place due to her borderline-supernatural agility, and so her armor is optimized to be as lightweight(and thus easy to maneuver in) as possible. Additionally, [[Dark Eldar]] culture demands that Wyches and Succubi be as sexually appealing as they are deadly in combat- a Wych that isn't attractive enough for the crowds inevitably ends up in an arena match that she can't win and the male members of wych cults dress about as skimpily.
File:Lelith Hesperax Huge.jpg|[[Lelith Hesperax]] in a Category Five. Again, in the context of 40k's fictional universe, this is somewhat justifiable: Lelith is not only neigh-supernaturally fast and entirely focused on dodging rather than tanking, but a female gladiator taking part in highly-ritualized combat games intended to sexually titillate the crowds.
File:Muscle_Cuirass.jpg|A male category 2 muscle cuirass. It has largely the same problems as female category two. They even went to the trouble of [[/d/|hammering out nipples and a navel.]]
File:Muscle_Cuirass.jpg|A male Cat 2 cuirass. It has largely the same problems as female Cat 2. They even went to the trouble of [[/d/|hammering out nipples and a navel.]]
File:Roman_Gladiator_Armor.jpg|A male category 4/5 historical roman gladiator. The exposed chest is considered to be the gladiators badge of honor. If you've pierced that, you've pierced the gladiators honour. No. His ''other'' [[oglaf|honour]].
File:Roman_Gladiator_Armor.jpg|A male Cat 5 gladiator's armor. The exposed chest is considered to be the combatant's badge of pride. If you've pierced that, you've stabbed him right in his honor. [[Oglaf| No, his ''other'' honor!]]
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Oh boy...

The short version of it is that some people involved in game designing (both traditional and video games) tend to design female armor to be more sexually attractive than functional. This topic can lead to lively debates.

Categorization

How people react to the tiers of armor

Here's a brief rundown...

  • Category Zero: A female character is simply clad in regular armor that is identical to what male characters have and is purely functional in design. If it has any ornamentation, it is simply the sort of ornamentation that is common for that region. Some examples include chainmail shirt and a helmet, a suit of plate, gear worn by modern female soldiers in combat situations, etc.
  • Category One: Armor is specifically made to be worn by women, but is still functional. Ornamentation, if present can be more feminine. Think of the difference between a man's and a woman's suit. Cat One armor is either as good or better for a female wearer than Cat Zero armor.
  • Category Two: (Boobplate) Specific to plate armor, this involves a pair of boobs being hammered into a breastplate. This will direct a sword blow (or worse: a bullet) inward towards the heart. A simple raised section in the armor to accommodate breasts would fall into Category One. Special note has to go to the real world Greek Muscle cuirass which had sculpted boob plates, only it was worn by men (ie the Sanguinary Guard), and further only by officers, making it a rare case of male Cat 2 or 1. That said, since a six pack and abs is flatter than a pair of boobs it's much less of an issue.
  • Category Three: Female armor which is really, really tight fitting, thus making it hard to put on or take off, decreasing its effectiveness as armor, and making it hard to move comfortably in.
  • Category Four: Armor with exposed cleavage, midriffs and similar, leaving portions of the body exposed for blades, spears and arrows. Also appearing at this point are high heels, and not the kind intended for riding.
  • Category Five: Chainmail and plate bikinis. At this point we are not dealing with armor but rather armor-themed stripper costumes whose only purpose is for pure fanservice. The male example is Roman gladiator armor which usually only consisted of armor on a single arm and a belt, and, like lady Cat 5 armor, was intended for spectacle rather than utility.

Gallery

  • Jenette Vasquez from Aliens in Category Zero. As seen with Hudson as a comparison, her armor looks exactly like that of the male marines use, apart from the extra equipment used to wield a Smartgun system.

    Jenette Vasquez from Aliens in Category Zero. As seen with Hudson as a comparison, her armor looks exactly like that of the male marines use, apart from the extra equipment used to wield a Smartgun system.

  • Elspeth Tirel shows off an ornamental suit of Category One.

    Elspeth Tirel shows off an ornamental suit of Category One.

  • Sister Miriya of the Sisters of Battle in Category Two. Category Two armor is generally the most acceptable form of female armor for most fantasy fans since it looks like something that's both recognizably feminine and reasonably protective.

    Sister Miriya of the Sisters of Battle in Category Two. Category Two armor is generally the most acceptable form of female armor for most fantasy fans since it looks like something that's both recognizably feminine and reasonably protective.

  • An Eldar Farseer in Category Three. While eldar armor mesh removes many of the problems of this type of armor, sculpting the navel is probably a bit much. Also, even the male Banshees have to wear the boobplate.

    An Eldar Farseer in Category Three. While eldar armor mesh removes many of the problems of this type of armor, sculpting the navel is probably a bit much. Also, even the male Banshees have to wear the boobplate.

  • Lelith Hesperax in a Category Five. Again, in the context of 40k's fictional universe, this is somewhat justifiable: Lelith is not only neigh-supernaturally fast and entirely focused on dodging rather than tanking, but a female gladiator taking part in highly-ritualized combat games intended to sexually titillate the crowds.

    Lelith Hesperax in a Category Five. Again, in the context of 40k's fictional universe, this is somewhat justifiable: Lelith is not only neigh-supernaturally fast and entirely focused on dodging rather than tanking, but a female gladiator taking part in highly-ritualized combat games intended to sexually titillate the crowds.

  • A male Cat 2 cuirass. It has largely the same problems as female Cat 2. They even went to the trouble of hammering out nipples and a navel.

    A male Cat 2 cuirass. It has largely the same problems as female Cat 2. They even went to the trouble of hammering out nipples and a navel.

  • A male Cat 5 gladiator's armor. The exposed chest is considered to be the combatant's badge of pride. If you've pierced that, you've stabbed him right in his honor. No, his other honor!

    A male Cat 5 gladiator's armor. The exposed chest is considered to be the combatant's badge of pride. If you've pierced that, you've stabbed him right in his honor. No, his other honor!

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