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The | '''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] and [[Troll|trollbait]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words a musclegirl image dump or a stupid argument will ensue, sometimes both. | ||
==History== | ==History== | ||
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept. | Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept. | ||
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."'' | |||
==See Also:== | ==See Also:== | ||
*[[Katanas_are_Underpowered_in_d20#Women_are_Underpowered_in_D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]] | *[[Katanas_are_Underpowered_in_d20#Women_are_Underpowered_in_D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]] | ||
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics] | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics] | ||
*Comparable weight classes in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting list of world records in weightlifting] | |||
==Gallery== | ==Gallery== | ||
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Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads. | Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads. | ||
Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme? | Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme? | ||
Image:Minus4strbanned.png|Who says there are no mods in /tg/? | Image:Minus4strbanned.png|Who says there are no [[mods]] in /tg/? | ||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
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-4 Str is a meme and trollbait from /tg/. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially adventurers -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their strength score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words a musclegirl image dump or a stupid argument will ensue, sometimes both.
History
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
- An oldfag says: "This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of 1st ed. AD&D: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of Gary Gygax."
See Also:
- Women are Underpowered in d20
- List of world records in athletics
- Comparable weight classes in the list of world records in weightlifting
Gallery
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"ah-ha-ha-ha NO."
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A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?
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A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.
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1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
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Who says there are no mods in /tg/?
