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{{Topquote|We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. [[Awesome|They do not exist]].|Queen Victoria}}
{{Topquote|We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. [[Awesome|They do not exist]].|Queen Victoria}}


{{Topquote|“The sun never sets on the British empire, because even God couldn’t trust the Englishman in the dark” .|Indian nationalist}}
{{Topquote|The sun never sets on the British empire, because even God couldn’t trust the Englishman in the dark.|Indian nationalist}}


The '''British Empire''' was formed in 1707 under the Acts of Union, merging the Kingdom of England (which included poor, forgotten Wales) and the Kingdom of Scotland with their respective empires into the United Kingdom. Over the next 200 years, the empire would swell to become the largest overseas empire in history. The empire, while criticized for its colonialism and numerous atrocities committed against its subjects and enemies, is credited for its major role in ending the slave trade, creating and expanding infrastructure throughout Africa and Asia, introducing English as the world’s Lingua Franca, and maintaining international stability across the world. The empire is typically believed to have dissolved in 1997 with the loss of Hong Kong, it being the last major economic and demographic outpost of the United Kingdom outside of Europe. It might no longer be "The empire on which the sun never sets" on account of it no longer being am empire, but if you include its overseas territories, the sun still does not set upon the United Kingdom.
{{Topquote|Where's your patriotism?!"<br>'''"God save the Queen!"'''<br>"God save the Queen."<br>"God bless her."<br>"That's about as patriotic as it gets around here.|The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen}}


Like the [[Roman Empire]], the British variant is often used as a setting in many fantasy games. While not being as totalitarian and corrupt as its Latin counterpart, colonialism and intense patriotism and jingoism are often used traits for both antagonistic and protagonist settings. Any steampunk game ever made is based on a model of Victorian London. Scampi and all. Also very important, tea, jolly good tea. TEEAAA!!!! Even the commissar likes tea! Yes I do so I will not blam you today..  oh oops!
The '''British Empire''' was formed in 1707 under the Acts of Union, merging the Kingdom of England (which included poor, forgotten annexed Wales) and the Kingdom of Scotland with their respective empires into the United Kingdom. Over the next 200 years, the empire would swell to become the largest overseas empire in history. The empire, while criticized for its colonialism and numerous atrocities committed against its subjects and enemies, is credited for its major role in ending the slave trade, creating and expanding infrastructure throughout Africa and Asia (if to assist in draining of those place's wealth), introducing English as the world’s Lingua Franca, and maintaining international stability across the world. The empire is typically believed to have dissolved in 1997 with the loss of Hong Kong, it being the last major economic and demographic outpost of the United Kingdom outside of Europe. It might no longer be "The empire on which the sun never sets" on account of it no longer being an empire, but if you include its overseas territories (specifically the Pitcairn Islands), the sun still does not set upon the United Kingdom. Vestigial elements of the empire remain through the commonwealth as an economic alliance with some but not all colonial extensions of the late empire as members. Its critics compare it to a tributary system disguised as an association of equals but still Britain has been able to keep its economic autonomy because of it when compared to its neighbors who have become more intensely linked with the european union and NATO.
 
Like the [[Roman Empire]], the British variant is often used as a setting in many fantasy games. While not being as totalitarian and corrupt as its Latin counterpart it is much more murderous, admiration of colonialism, intense patriotism and jingoism along with a large helping of passive agressive snobby prejudice against all ungentlemanly characters are often used traits for both antagonistic and protagonistic roles. Any steampunk game ever made is based on a model of Victorian London. Scampi and all. Also very important, tea, jolly good tea. TEEAAA!!!! Even the [[Commissar]] likes tea! Yes I do so I will not blam you today..  oh oops!




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==British Empire Analogs in Fantasy==
==British Empire Analogs in Fantasy==
[[File:Its on now.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Picking a fight with the British Empire is generally a bad idea.]]
[[File:Its on now.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Picking a fight with the British Empire is generally a bad idea.]]
*The Holy Britannian Empire from Code Geass is the anglosphere unified basically a what if america and britain were one nation scenario they reject equality as an illogical concept and focus on achieving progress through industry.
*The Empire in the Elder scrolls series is a mash up of Roman and British Empire culture. Examples of this include the "East Empire company", based off the British East India company.
*The Empire in the Elder scrolls series is a mash up of Roman and British Empire culture. Examples of this include the "East Empire company", based off the British East India company.
**Note for discussion: the Praetorian and Varangian Guard are both Roman Empire (or East-Roman aka Byzantine) concepts.
**Note for discussion: the Praetorian and Varangian Guard are both Roman Empire (or East-Roman aka Byzantine) concepts.
*Dwarfs in fantasy typically have an isolationist view of the world which parallels with Britain's "Splendid Isolation" wherein it did little to make alliances and focused on expansion. They are also were modeled after Yorkshire stereotypes.
*Dwarfs in fantasy typically have an isolationist view of the world which parallels with Britain's "Splendid Isolation" wherein it did little to make alliances and focused on expansion. They are also were modeled after Yorkshire stereotypes.
*Bretonnia was blatantly named after Brittania, a national personification of the United Kingdom, but most of it is other more blatantly French.
*The gunpowderphiliac [[Giff]] race in D&D's [[Spelljammer]] setting are so British they may as well have been birthed of Queen Victoria herself. Aside from being giant anthropomorphic hippos.
*Bretonnia was blatantly named after Brittania, a national personification of the United Kingdom, but otherwise the region is pretty blatantly French, due to being Warhammer's pastiche of the [[Arthurian Mythos]].
*The Empire in Warhammer Fantasy is based more on the German Holy Roman Empire, but certain elements of it are certainly British; Altdorf takes influence from both Vienna and every bad stereotype of London (ala Ankh-Morpork, except less funny), and every single Empire character is given a British accent in every Warhammer Video game (see Mark of Chaos and Total Warhammer: War).
*The Empire in Warhammer Fantasy is based more on the German Holy Roman Empire, but certain elements of it are certainly British; Altdorf takes influence from both Vienna and every bad stereotype of London (ala Ankh-Morpork, except less funny), and every single Empire character is given a British accent in every Warhammer Video game (see Mark of Chaos and Total Warhammer: War).
*The High Elves in Warhammer Fantasy has a lot of similarity to the British Empire. Back before [[Malekith]]'s betrayal as well as the war of the beard, High Elves have settled across the globe through their seafaring superiority and have established trade with various races like the Dwarfs. Just like the British Empire, they've built colonies on islands all over the world, be it near Cathay or Lustria. Like the English, they are viewed as perfectly mannered, well dressed, arrogant, suffering from a superiority complex and easily corrupted (corruption exists in all society really, but high elves suffered the most because of their higher sensitivity to magic). They even have their own American counterpart called the Dark Elves, a race of cruel Elves who enjoys war, automatic weapons (darkshards), sail on giant aircraft carrier ship (Black Ark) and lived on a continent that is similar shaped to America. The High Elves are also known for their expansionist attitude similar to the British in that era and love to look down on the minor races, which (with a little help from Malekith) led them to fought the most devastating war against their equally strong ally (the Dwarfs), similar to how the British Empire fall. It doesn't take much imagination to see the High Elves, especially the more arrogant ones, as satirical portrayals of posh high-class Tories from the 80s. Also, their capital is called Londo... erm, Lothern.  
*The High Elves in Warhammer Fantasy has a lot of similarity to the British Empire. Back before [[Malekith]]'s betrayal as well as the war of the beard, High Elves have settled across the globe through their seafaring superiority and have established trade with various races like the Dwarfs. Just like the British Empire, they've built colonies on islands all over the world, be it near Cathay or Lustria. Like the English, they are viewed as perfectly mannered, well dressed, arrogant, suffering from a superiority complex and easily corrupted (corruption exists in all society really, but high elves suffered the most because of their higher sensitivity to magic). They even have their own American counterpart called the Dark Elves, a race of cruel Elves who enjoys war, automatic weapons (darkshards), sail on giant aircraft carrier ship (Black Ark) and lived on a continent that is similar shaped to America. The High Elves are also known for their expansionist attitude similar to the British in that era and love to look down on the minor races, which (with a little help from Malekith) led them to fought the most devastating war against their equally strong ally (the Dwarfs), similar to how the British Empire fall. It doesn't take much imagination to see the High Elves, especially the more arrogant ones, as satirical portrayals of posh high-class Tories from the 80s. Also, their capital is called Londo... erm, Lothern.  
*A posh British accent is often used in fantasy settings to show a character's wisdom, experience, nobility or evil nature.
*A posh British accent is often used in fantasy settings to show a character's wisdom, experience, nobility or evil nature.
*A cockney British accent is often used in fantasy settings to show a character's shittiness, untrustworthiness, scumminess, toughness, lovability, or just to make them as annoying as possible. Most commonly the latter two, because cockney accents are always either the most lovable thing in a setting, or the single most ear-gratingly annoying thing in the setting.
*A cockney British accent is often used in fantasy settings to show a character's shittiness, untrustworthiness, scumminess, toughness, lovability, or just to make them as annoying as possible. Most commonly the latter two, because cockney accents are always either the most lovable thing in a setting, or the single most ear-gratingly annoying thing in the setting.
** On the same note, northern, scottish or just generally lower-class British accents and dialects are often used to show low social standing of any given character.
*Many wargaming companies are/were originally based in the UK such as [[Games Workshop|Games Worskhop]]. Truly the <strike>best</strike> <strike>worst</strike>  <strike>best</strike> worst thing to come out of the Empire.
*Many wargaming companies are/were originally based in the UK such as [[Games Workshop|Games Worskhop]]. Truly the <strike>best</strike> <strike>worst</strike>  <strike>best</strike> worst thing to come out of the Empire.
*The city of Dunwall in [[/v/|Dishonored]] is heavily influenced by Victorian Liverpool and London.
*The city of Dunwall in [[/v/|Dishonored]] is heavily influenced by Victorian Liverpool and London.

Latest revision as of 09:41, 20 June 2023

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"YOU WERE THE GREATEST POWER ON EARTH 50 YEARS AGO..."

"We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. They do not exist."

– Queen Victoria

"The sun never sets on the British empire, because even God couldn’t trust the Englishman in the dark."

– Indian nationalist

"Where's your patriotism?!"
"God save the Queen!"
"God save the Queen."
"God bless her."
"That's about as patriotic as it gets around here."

– The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

The British Empire was formed in 1707 under the Acts of Union, merging the Kingdom of England (which included poor, forgotten annexed Wales) and the Kingdom of Scotland with their respective empires into the United Kingdom. Over the next 200 years, the empire would swell to become the largest overseas empire in history. The empire, while criticized for its colonialism and numerous atrocities committed against its subjects and enemies, is credited for its major role in ending the slave trade, creating and expanding infrastructure throughout Africa and Asia (if to assist in draining of those place's wealth), introducing English as the world’s Lingua Franca, and maintaining international stability across the world. The empire is typically believed to have dissolved in 1997 with the loss of Hong Kong, it being the last major economic and demographic outpost of the United Kingdom outside of Europe. It might no longer be "The empire on which the sun never sets" on account of it no longer being an empire, but if you include its overseas territories (specifically the Pitcairn Islands), the sun still does not set upon the United Kingdom. Vestigial elements of the empire remain through the commonwealth as an economic alliance with some but not all colonial extensions of the late empire as members. Its critics compare it to a tributary system disguised as an association of equals but still Britain has been able to keep its economic autonomy because of it when compared to its neighbors who have become more intensely linked with the european union and NATO.

Like the Roman Empire, the British variant is often used as a setting in many fantasy games. While not being as totalitarian and corrupt as its Latin counterpart it is much more murderous, admiration of colonialism, intense patriotism and jingoism along with a large helping of passive agressive snobby prejudice against all ungentlemanly characters are often used traits for both antagonistic and protagonistic roles. Any steampunk game ever made is based on a model of Victorian London. Scampi and all. Also very important, tea, jolly good tea. TEEAAA!!!! Even the Commissar likes tea! Yes I do so I will not blam you today.. oh oops!


British Empire Analogs in Fantasy[edit]

Picking a fight with the British Empire is generally a bad idea.
  • The Holy Britannian Empire from Code Geass is the anglosphere unified basically a what if america and britain were one nation scenario they reject equality as an illogical concept and focus on achieving progress through industry.
  • The Empire in the Elder scrolls series is a mash up of Roman and British Empire culture. Examples of this include the "East Empire company", based off the British East India company.
    • Note for discussion: the Praetorian and Varangian Guard are both Roman Empire (or East-Roman aka Byzantine) concepts.
  • Dwarfs in fantasy typically have an isolationist view of the world which parallels with Britain's "Splendid Isolation" wherein it did little to make alliances and focused on expansion. They are also were modeled after Yorkshire stereotypes.
  • The gunpowderphiliac Giff race in D&D's Spelljammer setting are so British they may as well have been birthed of Queen Victoria herself. Aside from being giant anthropomorphic hippos.
  • Bretonnia was blatantly named after Brittania, a national personification of the United Kingdom, but otherwise the region is pretty blatantly French, due to being Warhammer's pastiche of the Arthurian Mythos.
  • The Empire in Warhammer Fantasy is based more on the German Holy Roman Empire, but certain elements of it are certainly British; Altdorf takes influence from both Vienna and every bad stereotype of London (ala Ankh-Morpork, except less funny), and every single Empire character is given a British accent in every Warhammer Video game (see Mark of Chaos and Total Warhammer: War).
  • The High Elves in Warhammer Fantasy has a lot of similarity to the British Empire. Back before Malekith's betrayal as well as the war of the beard, High Elves have settled across the globe through their seafaring superiority and have established trade with various races like the Dwarfs. Just like the British Empire, they've built colonies on islands all over the world, be it near Cathay or Lustria. Like the English, they are viewed as perfectly mannered, well dressed, arrogant, suffering from a superiority complex and easily corrupted (corruption exists in all society really, but high elves suffered the most because of their higher sensitivity to magic). They even have their own American counterpart called the Dark Elves, a race of cruel Elves who enjoys war, automatic weapons (darkshards), sail on giant aircraft carrier ship (Black Ark) and lived on a continent that is similar shaped to America. The High Elves are also known for their expansionist attitude similar to the British in that era and love to look down on the minor races, which (with a little help from Malekith) led them to fought the most devastating war against their equally strong ally (the Dwarfs), similar to how the British Empire fall. It doesn't take much imagination to see the High Elves, especially the more arrogant ones, as satirical portrayals of posh high-class Tories from the 80s. Also, their capital is called Londo... erm, Lothern.
  • A posh British accent is often used in fantasy settings to show a character's wisdom, experience, nobility or evil nature.
  • A cockney British accent is often used in fantasy settings to show a character's shittiness, untrustworthiness, scumminess, toughness, lovability, or just to make them as annoying as possible. Most commonly the latter two, because cockney accents are always either the most lovable thing in a setting, or the single most ear-gratingly annoying thing in the setting.
    • On the same note, northern, scottish or just generally lower-class British accents and dialects are often used to show low social standing of any given character.
  • Many wargaming companies are/were originally based in the UK such as Games Worskhop. Truly the best worst best worst thing to come out of the Empire.
  • The city of Dunwall in Dishonored is heavily influenced by Victorian Liverpool and London.

Notes[edit]

The previous "Britain" page was deleted because I am an Anglophobic American who hates the idea the modern world was made by someone else it was irrelevant to /tg/. Any in-depth historical analysis should be kept to Wikipedia. Also, we already have a page for general outlines of historical empires.

See Also[edit]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSnJSUU_7q0, for if you want to see questionable Czech propaganda that conveniently ignores much of the slaughter and genocide of native peoples performed by the British in the name of Empire.