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==Crunch==
==Crunch==
[[File:ChaosMutilatorsModels.jpg|thumb|300px|right|<center>The official models and yes, they have aged poorly. Well painted, though.</center>]]
[[File:ChaosMutilatorsModels.jpg|thumb|300px|right|<center>The official models and yes, [[Derp|they have aged poorly.]] Well painted, though.</center>]]
[[Phil Kelly|The guy that wrote this codex]] has some interesting ideas when it comes to internal codex balance. For example, his most celebrated work, Codex Dark Eldar in 5th edition had a handful of units that were [[Counts As#Mandrakes|generally to almost]] [[Warp Talons|entirely useless]] versus transparently better choices. Mutilators certainly give off an aura of the former - let's take a closer look at them:
[[Phil Kelly|The guy that wrote this codex]] has some interesting ideas when it comes to internal codex balance. For example, his most celebrated work, Codex Dark Eldar in 5th edition had a handful of units that were [[Counts As#Mandrakes|generally to almost]] [[Warp Talons|entirely useless]] versus transparently better choices. Mutilators certainly give off an aura of the former - let's take a closer look at them:


====PROS====
====PROS====
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*Daemon (5++ and causes fear, but vulnerable to Grey Knight shibozzle)
*Daemon (5++ and causes fear, but vulnerable to Grey Knight shibozzle)
*Deep Strike
*Deep Strike
*Come with the following weapon pairs: [[Power sword]]/[[Power Axe|axe]]/[[Power Weapon#Power Maul|mace]], [[Chainfist]], [[Lightning Claw]], which cannot be used twice in a row (the Chainfist is straight-up better than the axes and the Claws for the swords, so they're just back-ups for protacted combats)
*Come with the following weapon pairs: [[Power sword]]/[[Power Axe|axe]]/[[Power Weapon#Power Maul|mace]], [[Chainfist]], [[Lightning Claws]], which cannot be used twice in a row (the Chainfist is straight-up better than the axes and the Claws for the swords, so they're just back-ups for protacted combats)
*Fairly inexpensive at 55 pts./model
*Fairly inexpensive at 55 pts./model
*Access to the full gamut of Marks of Chaos, at a slightly more expensive cost than the norm. While Slaanesh is useless, Khorne and Tzeentch are alright and Nurgle is *amazing* as it prevents Krak missiles and lascannons from IDing them
*Access to the full gamut of Marks of Chaos, at a slightly more expensive cost than the norm. While Slaanesh is useless, Khorne and Tzeentch are alright and Nurgle is *amazing* as it prevents Krak missiles and lascannons from IDing them
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====CONS====
====CONS====
*They have Slow and Purposeful, which robs them of running and sweeping advance to grant them Relentless, which they don't need because...
*They have Slow and Purposeful, which robs them of running and sweeping advance to grant them Relentless, which they don't need because...
*They have no ranged weapons - so ...
*They have no ranged weapons - so...
*Deep-striking these guys will will open them up to a volley of fire without any sort of counter-attack, compounded by the fact that . . .
*Deep-striking these guys will will open them up to a volley of fire without any sort of counter-attack, compounded by the fact that . . .
*Unit size is capped at 3 models max!
*Unit size is capped at 3 models max!
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===Conclusion===
===Conclusion===
On the whole, a unit that is very limited in its combat usage but for its cost pretty dang tough, and outright solid with the Mark of Nurgle. If used as a typical combat threat, the unit will generally perform poorly - it lacks speed, it has no shooting for pre-combat and it doesn't even have grenades. Instead, by making the most of its Deep-Striking capacity and combined great tough-to-cost ratio and combat flexibility, a a single Mutilator with the Mark of Nurgle can act as a cheap, easy-to-deep-strike, annoyingly-tough-to-kill distraction.  
On the whole, a unit that is very limited in its combat usage but for its cost pretty dang tough, and outright solid with the Mark of Nurgle. If used as a typical combat threat, the unit will generally perform poorly - it lacks speed, it has no shooting for pre-combat and it doesn't even have grenades. Instead, by making the most of its Deep-Striking capacity and combined great tough-to-cost ratio and combat flexibility, a a single Mutilator with the Mark of Nurgle can act as a cheap, easy-to-deep-strike, annoyingly-tough-to-kill distraction.


Does your enemy waste plasma and las fire, railguns, Vindicator rounds et al removing a single two-wound model? Or does he ignore it and let it get away with grarbling squishy backfield units in melee and/or ripping and tearing fortifications and [[Basilisk]]s new anuses? Does your enemy disrupt its carefully layed-out battle lines, possibly wasting turns of fire for units with heavy, salvo and ordnance weapons to avoid this one guy? And as for the potential user, one must ask: is this cheaper, more disposable and just as effective as a trio of [[Terminator]]s? Will your opponents allow you to use an Oblit with the guns magnetized off as a counts-as? Why not find out for yourself?
Does your enemy waste plasma and las fire, railguns, Vindicator rounds et al removing a single two-wound model? Or does he ignore it and let it get away with grarbling squishy backfield units in melee and/or ripping and tearing fortifications and [[Basilisk]]s new anuses? Does your enemy disrupt its carefully layed-out battle lines, possibly wasting turns of fire for units with heavy, salvo and ordnance weapons to avoid this one guy? And as for the potential user, one must ask: is this cheaper, more disposable and just as effective as a trio of [[Terminator]]s? Will your opponents allow you to use an Oblit with the guns magnetized off as a counts-as? Why not find out for yourself?
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===9th edition===
===9th edition===
Rumours abound that Mutilators are getting cut from the roster in favour of improvements to, well, the rest of the lineup. Not a terrible loss considering they weren't exactly a popular choice. Since Obliterators get four Power Fist attacks, ''Unrelenting Firepower'' that allows them to move with no penalty after firing their Fleshmetal Guns and shoot within ''Engagement Range''. There was really no loss by squatting Mutilators.
<s>Rumours abound that Mutilators are getting cut from the roster</s> They were cut and are no longer available on CSM Codex 9th ed. Sad for the 6 people who bought them, but all were in favor of improvements to, well, the rest of the lineup. Not a terrible loss considering they weren't exactly a popular choice. Since Obliterators get four Power Fist attacks, ''Unrelenting Firepower'' that allows them to move with no penalty after firing their Fleshmetal Guns and shoot within ''Engagement Range''. There was really no loss by squatting Mutilators.


==Alternative Modeling Options==
==Alternative Modeling Options==
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*Converting 8th edition [[Obliterators]]
*Converting 8th edition [[Obliterators]]
*Converting Necromunda [[Ambull|Ambots]]
*Converting Necromunda [[Ambull|Ambots]]
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Latest revision as of 09:11, 22 June 2023

PROMOTIONS!

The Mutilators are massive horrible abominations of flesh and metal, who live only to RIP AND TEAR. They are often called melee-oriented Obliterators, since crunch-wise they are practically identical and model-wise they are built from the same kit. Fluff-wise, however, they are nowhere near.

Fluff[edit]

Mutilators were once Terminator champions, who were so obsessed with close combat, that they merged with their weapons and armour into one being called Fleshmetal Armour. Apparently, spending 90% of your time in the fucked up hell-dimension of the Eye of Terror you can do such things without any daemonic techno-virus help. So now their bodies are covered in grown-in terminator armour, power weapons, chain weapons, lightning claws, and various other sharp objects, as well as their souls, which have merged in all of the machine-spirits of all the weapons they have absorbed. Unlike Obliterators they still can speak non-binary language, but being absolutely batshit-insane butchers they rarely have anything to tell.

Crunch[edit]

The official models and yes, they have aged poorly. Well painted, though.

The guy that wrote this codex has some interesting ideas when it comes to internal codex balance. For example, his most celebrated work, Codex Dark Eldar in 5th edition had a handful of units that were generally to almost entirely useless versus transparently better choices. Mutilators certainly give off an aura of the former - let's take a closer look at them:

PROS[edit]

  • 2 wounds and attacks (Stocky and an alright number of strike per turn)
  • 2+ armour save from Fleshmetal
  • Daemon (5++ and causes fear, but vulnerable to Grey Knight shibozzle)
  • Deep Strike
  • Come with the following weapon pairs: Power sword/axe/mace, Chainfist, Lightning Claws, which cannot be used twice in a row (the Chainfist is straight-up better than the axes and the Claws for the swords, so they're just back-ups for protacted combats)
  • Fairly inexpensive at 55 pts./model
  • Access to the full gamut of Marks of Chaos, at a slightly more expensive cost than the norm. While Slaanesh is useless, Khorne and Tzeentch are alright and Nurgle is *amazing* as it prevents Krak missiles and lascannons from IDing them

CONS[edit]

  • They have Slow and Purposeful, which robs them of running and sweeping advance to grant them Relentless, which they don't need because...
  • They have no ranged weapons - so...
  • Deep-striking these guys will will open them up to a volley of fire without any sort of counter-attack, compounded by the fact that . . .
  • Unit size is capped at 3 models max!
  • Additionally, they have to change weapons every turn. Thanks to the aforementioned weapon redundancy this isn't too much of an issue unless the best weapon against a target, in a protracted combat, is power mauls (low armour save, highish Toughness, Initiative vital? when will this happen) in which case Mutilators will be screwed on the off-turn
  • Much like Warp Talons (and a plethora of other units, certain Tyranids), they also lack assault grenades, meaning they may have trouble tackling cover-camping foes that they aren't attempting to Fist (although they can handle it better than most examples due to their tougher armour). Bear in mind of course that Mutilators generally go after high armour save targets, who are less likely to bind themselves to cover than most.
  • They take up an Elites slot, which has both cult marines (if the army isn't led by a correspondingly marked Lord, which is a given for armies planning to use one sort - basically this is only an issue for armies with multiple cult units) and options such as Possessed (that bastion of reliable design), Chosen (the poor man's Sternguard) and the versatile but often suicidal Chaos Terminators.
  • Last but certainly not least the current models have aged poorly and are somewhat derpy, especially the heads.

Conclusion[edit]

On the whole, a unit that is very limited in its combat usage but for its cost pretty dang tough, and outright solid with the Mark of Nurgle. If used as a typical combat threat, the unit will generally perform poorly - it lacks speed, it has no shooting for pre-combat and it doesn't even have grenades. Instead, by making the most of its Deep-Striking capacity and combined great tough-to-cost ratio and combat flexibility, a a single Mutilator with the Mark of Nurgle can act as a cheap, easy-to-deep-strike, annoyingly-tough-to-kill distraction.

Does your enemy waste plasma and las fire, railguns, Vindicator rounds et al removing a single two-wound model? Or does he ignore it and let it get away with grarbling squishy backfield units in melee and/or ripping and tearing fortifications and Basilisks new anuses? Does your enemy disrupt its carefully layed-out battle lines, possibly wasting turns of fire for units with heavy, salvo and ordnance weapons to avoid this one guy? And as for the potential user, one must ask: is this cheaper, more disposable and just as effective as a trio of Terminators? Will your opponents allow you to use an Oblit with the guns magnetized off as a counts-as? Why not find out for yourself?

8th edition[edit]

Oblits and Muties are still complimentary this edition, in that they both lose their classic "choose a weapon each turn" rule for one single weapon with randomized stats. In the Mutilator's case, it's WS3+, with Fleshmetal weapons of S:User+D3, AP:-(D3), D:D3, roll separately for each (their base strength being 5). Whereas a lot of people are unhappy about Oblits being stuck with close-range weapons that are at best slightly worse than a Lascannon, mutilators are probably just happy about the removal of Initiative and Initiative Steps so they can strike first with what amounts to a power fist. They're still slow with a puny Move of 4", but "having trouble getting into assault" is something they're used to now. Also they're rocking 3 wounds apiece now.

9th edition[edit]

Rumours abound that Mutilators are getting cut from the roster They were cut and are no longer available on CSM Codex 9th ed. Sad for the 6 people who bought them, but all were in favor of improvements to, well, the rest of the lineup. Not a terrible loss considering they weren't exactly a popular choice. Since Obliterators get four Power Fist attacks, Unrelenting Firepower that allows them to move with no penalty after firing their Fleshmetal Guns and shoot within Engagement Range. There was really no loss by squatting Mutilators.

Alternative Modeling Options[edit]

If you don't want to use the official models, here are some recommendations:

Forces of the Iron Warriors
Leaders: Chaos Lord - Chaos Champion - Lord Discordant
Sorcerer - Warsmith - Warpsmiths
Troops: Chaos Chosen - Chaos Raptors - Chaos Space Marine Squad
Chaos Terminators - Cultist - Havocs - Mutilators - Obliterators
Tech-Assassin - Heretek
Great Crusade-era: Breacher Siege Squad - Iron Havocs
Tyranthikos - Tyrant Siege Terminator
Structures: Castellum Stronghold
Legio
Cybernetica:
Domitar-Ferrum Class Battle-Automata
Walkers: Chaos Dreadnought (Hellforged Deredeo Dreadnought
Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnought
) - Helbrute
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Chaos Land Raider - Chaos Predator
Chaos Rhino (Castellan Rhino) - Chaos Vindicator
Infernal Relic Predator
Ordnance: Legion Arquitor Bombard - Legion Basilisk
Legion-pattern Medusa Siege Gun
Flyers: Harbinger - Hell Blade - Hell Talon
Storm Eagle - Stormbird - Thunderhawk
Superheavy Tanks: Typhon Heavy Siege Tank
Special Vehicles: Tormentor
Daemon Engines: Decimator - Defiler - Forgefiend - Heldrake
Maulerfiend - Venomcrawler - Helstalker
Allies: Chaos Space Marines
Forces of the Traitor Legions of Chaos
Leaders: Chaos Champion - Chaos Lord - Daemon Prince - Dark Apostle
Master of Execution - Sorcerer - Master of Possession - Lord Discordant
Unaligned: Chaos Chosen - Chaos Raptors - Chaos Space Marine Squad - Chaos Spawn - Chaos Terminators
Cultist - Havocs - Mutilators - Obliterators - Possessed - Tech-Assassin - Warp Talons - Warpsmith
Negavolt Cultist - Greater Possessed - Dark Disciple - Heretek
Faction Aligned: Khorne Berzerkers - Plague Marines - Noise Marines - Rubric Marines
Great Crusade-era: Breacher Siege Squad - Consul - Despoiler Squad - Destroyer Squad - Esoterist Consul - Legiones Decurion
Legion Herald - Legion Outrider Squad - Legion Vigilator - Moritat - Master of the Signal - Praetor
Reconnaissance Squad - Seeker Squad - Sky Hunter Squad - Tactical Support Squad - Inductii
Structures: Noctilith Crown - Skull Altar
Walkers: Chaos Dreadnought (Ferrum Infernus - Chaos Contemptor
Hellforged Leviathan - Hellforged Deredeo
) - Helbrute
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Chaos Land Raider (Land Raider Hades Diabolus) - Infernal Relic Predator
Kratos Heavy Assault Tank - Mastodon - Predator Tank - Rhino Transport - Sicaran Battle Tank
Stalk Tank - Vindicator - Typhon Heavy Siege Tank - Spartan Assault Tank - Rapier Armoured Carrier
Whirlwind Scorpius - Termite - Cerberus Destroyer - Fellblade
Flyers: Harbinger - Hell Blade - Hell Talon - Fire Raptor
Storm Eagle - Xiphon Interceptor - Thunderhawk - Stormbird
Spacecraft: Dreadclaw Assault Pod - Kharybdis - Doomfire Bomber - Swiftdeath Fighter
Titans: Daemon Knights - Chaos Emperor Titan - Feral Scout Titan
Ravager Battle Titan - Chaos Warlord Titan - Woe Machine
Unaligned
Daemon Engines:
Decimator - Defiler - Death Wheel - Forgefiend - Heldrake
Maulerfiend - Soul Grinder - Wirewolf - Venomcrawler - Helstalker
Daemon Engines
of Khorne:
Blood Reaper - Blood Slaughterer - Brass Scorpion - Cauldron of Blood - Death Dealer
Doom Blaster - Kytan - Lord of Skulls - Skull Reaper - Tower of Skulls
Daemon Engines
of Nurgle:
Blight Drone - Contagion - Foetid Bloat-Drone - Myphitic Blight-Hauler
Nurgle Plague Tower - Plague Hulk - Plagueburst Crawler
Daemon Engines
of Slaanesh:
Hell-Scourge - Hell-Knight - Hell-Strider
Questor Scout Titan - Slaanesh Subjugator
Daemon Engines
of Tzeentch:
Aether Ray - Doom Wing - Fire Lord of Tzeentch
Mirrorfiend - Silver Tower of Tzeentch - The Auruntaur
Auxiliaries: Chaos Daemons - Death Guard - Thousand Sons - Emperor's Children - World Eaters - Fallen Angels
Forces of the Sons of Horus/Black Legion
Leaders: Chaos Champion - Chaos Lord - Daemon Prince - Dark Apostle
Master of Execution - Sorcerer - Master of Possession - Lord Discordant
Troops: Bringers of Despair - Chaos Chosen - Chaos Raptors - Chaos Space Marine Squad
Chaos Spawn - Chaos Terminators - Cultist - Greater Possessed - Havocs - Mutilators
Obliterators - Possessed - Tech-Assassin - Warp Talons - Warpsmith - Heretek
Great Crusade-era: Justaerin - Reaver Attack Squad - Luperci
Walkers: Chaos Dreadnought (Ferrum Infernus - Chaos Contemptor
Hellforged Leviathan - Hellforged Deredeo
) - Helbrute
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Chaos Land Raider - (Land Raider Hades Diabolus)
Infernal Relic Predator - Predator Tank - Chaos Rhino - Vindicator
Flyers: Harbinger - Hell Blade - Hell Talon
Storm Eagle - Thunderhawk - Stormbird
Unaligned
Daemon Engines:
Decimator - Defiler - Forgefiend - Heldrake
Maulerfiend - Soul Grinder - Venomcrawler
Helstalker
Auxiliaries: Khorne Berzerkers - Plague Marines - Noise Marines - Rubric Marines
Allies: Chaos Space Marines - Lost and the Damned
Forces of the Word Bearers
Leaders: Chaos Champion - Chaos Lord - Daemon Prince - Dark Apostle
Master of Execution - Sorcerer - Master of Possession - Lord Discordant
Troops: Anointed - Chaos Chosen - Chaos Raptors - Chaos Space Marine Squad
Chaos Spawn - Chaos Terminators - Cultist - Dark Disciple - Greater Possessed
Havocs - Mutilators - Obliterators - Possessed - Warp Talons - Warpsmith
Great Crusade-era: Anakatis Kul - Ashen Circle - Diabolist - Gal Vorbak - Vor Nergeth
Walkers: Chaos Dreadnought (Ferrum Infernus - Chaos Contemptor
Hellforged Leviathan - Hellforged Deredeo
) - Helbrute
Mhara Gal Dreadnought
Vehicles: Bike Squad - Chaos Land Raider
Infernal Relic Predator
Predator Tank - Chaos Rhino
Flyers: Harbinger - Hell Blade - Hell Talon
Unaligned
Daemon Engines:
Decimator - Defiler - Forgefiend - Heldrake
Maulerfiend - Soul Grinder - Venomcrawler
Helstalker
Auxiliaries: Khorne Berzerkers - Plague Marines - Noise Marines - Rubric Marines
Allies: Chaos Space Marines - Lost and the Damned