Editing Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine (section)

== Things that Suck ==
* When the daemons first show up, Titus refers to them as "Chaos daemons!"  Is there any other kind? <s>WAIT, DON'T ANSWER THAT!</s>
* Explosions look like total ASS. While the texture work on the game is extremely detailed, they apparently skimped on their pyrotechnic effects. Some of the smoke and explosion effects look like they came off a PS1 game. This is painfully jarring in the opening aerial battle between the navy and the Orks.
* Ultrasmurfs. (Bear in mind though, you would probably bitch about it if they mentioned any other chapter as "the greatest of them all". [[Ultramarines:The_Movie|Observe]]). However, it could be argued that part of the joy of the badassery of Captain Titus is that he lends credit to that stereotype.
* While "Cover is for Pussies" is a manly mechanic, being able to fire from cover while being pinned by tons of Ork Shootas and Chaos Havocs in unreachable positions wouldn't be so bad.
** Don't forget the waves of renegade guardsmen who posses an inexhaustible supply of grenades that they lob at you without hesitation. This alone makes it nearly impossible to complete the later chapters without abusing cover and Lascannon camping.
*No awesome executions in multiplayer. Multiplayer executions were dropped because it would leave you vulnerable while performing it and [[Matt Ward|some people]] would get upset at seeing their marine having their organs torn out. This leaves one wondering why it wouldn't be left in as an optional humiliation move.
**More baffling is that it is being left out of the upcoming co-op as well for the exact same reasons, despite it being in singleplayer, meaning you can only regain health by [[Gay|hiding in cover while your health regenerates.]][[Derp| "Cover is for the weak" indeed.]]
***Further undermined by the fact that not taking cover against Tankbustaz will get you killed in a ludicrously quick-and-dirty way, as will charging into a pack of Traitor Guardsmen whilst they burn you alive in your artificer armor with volleys of [[Lasgun|flashlight]] fire.
* Explaining things to the newbs.
*<strike>There is NOBODY in fucking multiplayer, seriously, I've fucking waited for hours.</strike> NOT ANYMORE. The free giveaway have given new life to the multiplayer, with a small but loyal fanbase playing practically every day.
* They wanted to cast Sean Pertwee (Who played Governor Severus in Fire Warrior) as one of the characters, but they already had enough VA's. Not having Sean Pertwee in a Warhammer game, or film, is just plain wrong (though they do express desire to cast him in a possible sequel). '''UNFORTUNATELY!''' <s>THQ said that there won't be a sequel. [[Rage|FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!]]</s> <s>There might be a sequel, apparently, but only if THQ doesn't collapse in on itself like a super-massive star due to all its debt.</s> </s>THQ just went belly-up. The sequel's destiny is now in the hands of Sega....Emperor preserve us all.</s> And he has heard our prayers! it's happening, bois!!! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
* Another 40k game about some Space Marine snowflake. See Ultrasmurfs. But on the bright side, only Leandros acts like the generic Mary sue Ultramarine, Titus and Sidonus are more-or-less likable, even by those with a slight distaste for the Ultramarines.
* Not enough choppy. For a game that relies a lot on melee combat, not a lot of actual melee weapons to go around, only a knife (Which you can only use at the beginning of the game), chainsword, power axe, and thunder hammer and additionally, sync-kills are fairly limited for each one and starts to get "meh" after a few playthroughs. Given 40K's extensive armory of choppy choppas, you would think Relic could include more things like more power swords, fists and claws, eviscerator chainswords (And a large two-handed, flamer-toting chainsword would have been emprah-like to have), or just more sync-kills for said 4 weapons so players would have more variety in the amount of gore present.
* [http://www.spacemarine.com/blog-post/warhammer-40000-space-marine-e3-game-demo-walkthrough Apparently, melta guns are shotguns now and the Lascannon is some kind of retarded sniper rifle with slow-mo.]
**<s>[[Matt Ward|Sounds somehow familiar, no?]]</s> The Meltas are only shotguns as far as digital [[crunch]] is concerned; they're still burning death rays fluff-wise, disintegrating tons of orks and even daemons in one shot. As for the Lascannons, they aren't any more or less of a sniper weapon here than they are on the tabletop (basically an anti-materiel rifle, except on super grimdark space steroids).  Neither of them do a lot against Dreads, which is bullshit. The lascannon has a minor mitigation in that Titus doesn't have the accompanying power-backpack, which could understandably make each shot less powerful.
*Games consist of melta, plasma cannon, stormbolter, or vengeance launcher spam, the few players who disdain cheap tactics (oddly the ps3 space wolves champion this view) lose on principle unless they're banned in a tournament or are a cheating fuck named jwolf96 who bolt pistols you with a headshot WHILE JUMPING AROUND AS ASSAULT.EVERY TIME.hax.
*No [[Flamer]]s. (melta gun doesn't count)
*No [[Grav-Weaponry]]. (No halofags the Thunder Hammer is '''not''' a grav-weapon)
*Gears of War fanboys constantly saying that the game is a copy of Gears of War, even though it's a hack and slash shooter hybrid that does not feature a cover system (GOW is like a ducking simulator). They're also too magnificently retarded to realize that Warhammer 40,000 came Waaaaaaaaayyyyy before Gears of War. Not to mention the [[Space Marines]] of 40k inspired the giant space marine with the huge weapons.
*FUCKING audio stutter during times where you're battling hordes of enemies (which, in a hack-and-slash game, happens all the time). It's revealed that this is not hardware related as even those with high-powered machines and updated drivers also suffer from this. Relic might provide a fix for this but some are shifty about this, fearing that they might pull off the old [[Dawn of War]] ignorance on this game too. If you want a slightly acceptable temporary fix for this that doesn't require you playing this game in silence, infinitely loop a battle theme of your choosing on your music player such as [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRiU2N03Rzs Requiem for a Tower] while playing, set your volume to a level of your choosing, and gleefully continue hacking your opponents to shreds and curb-stomping them to paste. If you need the voices for tactical input, just enable subtitles.
*Shitty voice acting from anyone who is not a space marine (or lieutenant mira) 
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbiqNn6LxFM Shitty fucking lag that has remained unfixed over a month after its released], ergo consigning the game to the dustbin as new Vidya Gaems that are frankly better than it are released.
*<s>Only five maps, all of which encourage outright camping and grenade spam.</s> They're releasing more maps every few months.
*Matchmaking sucks a bag of dicks the size of a [[Nurgle|Great Unclean One]].
*<s>Devastator Marines are vastly more powerful than all other Marines, and it's possible to circumvent the Heavy Bolter's setup time by switching to/from your pistol. The switch-setup was fixed in a patch, but Devastators are still infinitely superior to anything any other Marine class can do damage-wise Assault/Raptor with thunder hammer/daemon maul with Killing Blow. Nuff said.</s> Plus the inability to dodge effectively, (Learn to combat roll, dumbass. Saves my bacon all the time.) slow recharge times on armor and health, and the fact that one shot from a tactical marine's plasma gun will melt your shit instantly balances it out. N00bs need to STFU and get some skill and stop whining. Also, unlike Raptors/Assault Marines, Devastators can't FLY.
*There were originally going to be Combi-Weapons in the game, but it was scrapped.
*Environments need more variety. A lot more variety. The game really doesn't start shaking shit up until about halfway through. Till then, everything is cityscape type level killing a bunch of Orks.
*On the console versions, accusations of Standbying (abusing host lag) are ''rampant''.
*<s>Makes no fucking sense from a chronological perspective - Graia was OMNOMNOM'd by the [[Tyranids]] (caught in the path of the initial Hive Fleet that approached Macragge) long before the events of Dawn of War and Dawn of War 2 - meaning that Titus' victory was ultimately a pyrrhic one, unless there's another Graia out there in the Imperium of Man. It's an alternate timeline, and it takes place on a different Graia (this particular Graia is located in the Segmentum Tempestus, not Ultima Segmentum). You can tell because Titus is the Captain of the Ultramarine's Second Company instead of Sicarius and Titan Invictus wasn't destroyed in the 13th Black Crusade (which was way before Dawn of War).</s>
**It takes place some time into M42, and it's a different Graia. Evidence: In Ultramarines: The Movie, Captain Severus was 2nd Company Captain, and the film took place after the battle for Macragge given their WE MARCH FOR MACRAGGE creed. Sicarius is either dead or been promoted by now. With Severus dead by the hands of the Daemon, Titus becomes his successor. Further proof comes from the Blood Ravens appearance. Hive Fleet Leviathan, a splinter of which was defeated by the Magpies in DOW2, showed up in the final years of M41. Given that Retribution takes place 11 years after that, and Titus mentions the Aurelian Crusades, Relic has left the 41st Millennium behind. In four games, Relic has pushed further with the 40K timeline than Games Workshop has in twenty years.
***This is more or less confirmed by 8th edition. Cato Sicarius gets lost in the Warp at one point, so naturally they would have promoted someone else (namely Titus) to fill in. Sure the [[Great Rift]] doesn't appear on the map in the intro, but it hadn't been made up yet IRL, what are you gonna do?
* Not enough Ham. From the company that brought such gems as "BEAR WITNESS TO MY ASCENSION!!!!" and "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! LET THE GALAXY BURN!", it's a bit of a letdown when <s>even the Orks sound bored</s> you call "GIT OFF MAH SHIP, SPACE MUHREEN!!" bored? Calm Space Marines are boring Space Marines. Shout your litanies to the Emperor, dammit!
*<s>[[Butthurt|Multiplayer perks. COCK OF DUTY MODERN SHITFUCK ANNOYING FUCKING 'MARTYRDOM' RIPOFF. Yes. Your armor's power-pack/jump-pack EXPLODES with a ludicrous kill zone. FUCKING ANNOYING.</s>]] The noobs want perks deal with it. [[Skub|GIT GUD STOP WHINING.]]
**<s>this game is Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 with bigger guys for you.</s> {{BLAM}} {{BLAM|Heresy!}}
* Multiplayer: MIGRATING TO NEW HOST. MIGRATING TO NEW HOST. MIGRATING TO NEW HOST. MIGRATING TO NEW HOST. NOW I LAG LOLOLOLOLOL. But this comes as a result of no dedicated servers due to a small playerbase. (One player goes as far as to call Host Migrations "Warp Storms" over voice chat, due to the seeming level of warp-dickery behind their timing.)
*<s>[[Butthurt|Dreadnoughts are unstoppable rape machines that will steamroll the entire enemy team by themselves unless it is made up entirely of devastator marines (RELIC SUCKS AT BALANCE!)]]</s> the concept of game balance is bullshit. [[Skub|GIT GUD STOP WHINING.]]
* Final boss fight with Nemeroth is disappointing. Instead of having a proper fight like against Grimskull, it's just a quick-time event. While being sort of epic the first time you play it (You ''are'' falling down a space elevator, after all) it gets repetitive and boring in following play-throughs. Also, you can spam all three of the required inputs at once with no penalty.
** And to get to the irritating button mash you have to drudge through a long and annoying fight with his OP minions.
*Good luck finding a game that's on any of the DLC stuff, or outside of the original five maps, You won't find any matches that aren't Seize Ground or Annihilation. We seriously need a new Space Marine game.
* There's no-one fucking playing multiplayer anymore
* <s>We're never gonna get a sequel :c</s> SEQUEL CONFIRMED, THE EMPEROR HAS HEARD OUR PRAYERS.
* A squad of [[Veteran Squad#Sternguard Veterans|Sternguard Veterans]] or [[Terminators]] could have solved both the Orc and Chaos problems in under thirty minutes. A squad of each should have been aboard the [[Strike Cruiser]] in orbit. Deamon Prince Nemeroth whiled on by Assault Terminators led by Titus would have been funny and [[awesome]] to see.
* Your a dwarf in a barrel.
* Exterminatus glitching the fuck out.
* The bolter behaves like a generic assault rifle. Orks will take like 10 shots to die. Fire warrior (shudders) remains the only 40k game to get the bolter right.
* Ranged and Melee damage do not correlate, meaning switching between the 2 on a single target is an useless endeavor despite it looking sick as fuck
*Said Anniversity Edition now made it priced at $60 USD, overpriced considering that it released 10 years ago