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===Core Armies and Legacy Armies=== In May 2023, this was further expanded on with some additional information that certain armies are considered core factions (read; getting army books and support) and non-core/legacy factions ([[Fail|read; getting PDF's and getting jack shit else]]). The Core factions at games release will be the Empire, High Elves, Wood Elves, Bretonnia, Dwarfs, Chaos Warriors, Tomb Kings, Orcs and Goblins and the Beastmen, being split into "good" and "evil" factions (which upset some people even though this has been a thing Warhammer Fantasy did since 5th edition). This has been a [[Skub|controversial decision]] as it has pretty much cut the number of supported armies in half, and while factions like [[Lizardmen]] were not expected to get rules to begin with, the hope had been that the setting would start in the Old World and the move around and look at other factions via-supplements, which now seems very unlikely for a good few years, if ever. All of this has also thrown into question the status of [[Kislev]] and [[Cathay]], who were thought to be core factions due to updates on TOW actually going into detail about them, but the only word on them so far has been along the lines of "yeah, probably at some point." In addition to all that it was hammered home again that AoS models will get no rule support in Old World. Putting to bed any hopes that some of the newer AoS models could be used to fill in some gaps in legacy armies. Which honestly isn't surprising but still some had held out hope they might get maybe a PDF style addition. Some explanation was given to why certain factions are not getting the same treatment, as the [[Lizardmen]] and [[Dark Elves]] "live an ocean away", the [[Skaven]] are having a civil war and not doing anything to annoy the surface, the [[Von Carstein]]s are all dead, the [[Ogre Kingdoms]] and [[Chaos Dwarfs]] are on the other side of a mountain range and don't get about much and the Chaos Daemons are having a bit of trouble forming armies due to a low influx of magic from the polar gates. All of which are not great arguments when you remember that there are Lizardmen in the [[Southlands]], the Dark Elves are pirates and have raided the Old Worlds coasts before, their are other Vampires that are not Von Carsteins who would build armies and cause trouble, Chaos Daemons could be rolled into an army with Chaos Warriors, the Skaven are, well, the Skaven so they don't need a justification to be anywhere and if [[Cathay]] does get an army and models, then the Ogres and Chaos Dwarfs are literally sitting between the Empire and Cathay, so would take an active role in fighting armies and traders that are crossing the [[Dark Lands]] and [[Mountains of Mourn]]. And while it is good that many of the discontinued Elf and Dwarf kits will be returning (alongside presumably new kits), this announcement has created an feeling that The Old World might be a bit half-arsed, which it really can't afford to do, if it want's to win back the fantasy player base ====A More Positive View==== [[file:1684869319076923.jpg|thumb|left|400px|/TG/'s guide to budgeting.]] The lack of focus on certain factions may make sense by GW as they either are already available through other ranges or because this specific narrative is going to be more focused on a set few factions to see if they sell well. Keep in mind that every army is going to take up shelf and storage space at [[Forgeworld]] and [[Games Workshop]], so redundant packaging and armies that have a lot of crossover with [[Age of Sigmar]] may end up being detrimental to the company. Instead, it's likely these factions may be added to the Old World as their ranges get updated and old models need to be sent elsewhere. These models are still available so if the Old World is financially as successful as the Horus Heresy or other specialist games could mean we see old factions have new rules as new campaigns and editions of the game release. The fact [[Kislev]] will have to show up due to the time period of the game should mean that other events like the Dark Elf's invasion of Ulthaun during this time period will likely also be supported, though they will need more time and funds to update the armies in question. If anything, old ranges still being supported with rules instead of being [[squatted|silently squatted]] should mean that they're not being forgotten about. Does it suck? Yes, but there is a silver lining here.
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