Editing Spiritual liege (section)

==Why this isn't as dumb as you think==
Other than the fact that technically Ultramarines were always viewed ''by non-Space Marines'' as the prime example of what it means to be a Space Marine and if it wasn't for Guilliman, the Chapter would not exist...

Ward's work is poorly worded but there's some truth in it.  There is a rather large number of Chapters that don't know who their Primarch is, either due to the [[Imperium of Man|Imperium's]] [[Administratum|exceptionally professional record-keeping]] or because [[Inquisition|it was covered up]], often due to the [[gene-seed]] used coming from a traitor Legion or being somehow tainted from the start. The lineage of some Chapters could be guessed based upon key traits, but many others are just too "generic". The [[Soul Drinkers]] thought they were [[Imperial Fists]] successors, and the [[Blood Ravens]] are probably <s>also sons of Guilliman assuming the "loyalist [[Thousand Sons]]" theory doesn't pan out (although it probably will)</s> successors to the Thousand Sons (check out this video theorizing about it!: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4m8HH5zy7w]). Since it's a common fact that Ultramarines are the prime and favored source of gene-seed due to their low mutation rate it is a safe bet to assume the Chapter is one of their successors; [[Dark Angels]] successors are irrevocably inducted into "the Unforgiven" (basically Legion Building) without exception, [[Blood Angels]] successors all have [[Blood Angels#Red Thirst|Red Thirst]], the [[Raven Guard|Poets]] and Imperial Fists both have notable and consistent defects in their gene-seed, and neither the [[Salamanders|rastas]], nor the [[Space Wolves|furries]] (although the Space Wolves couldn't actually make successors) have any real habit of forming successor chapters, the former due to lack of numbers during the [[Second Founding]], and the latter courtesy of Fenris' nature or some other underlying factor, so it kinda narrows down the list of who your Primarch could be (specifically, [[Roboute Guilliman|Rowboat]], [[Jaghatai Khan|Genghis Khan]], and [[Ferrus Manus|Metal Hands]]. Even then, both the [[White Scars|mongols]] and [[Iron Hands|the ultimate Mechanicum bros]] only have a handful of successors while the Ultramarines have a large majority).  

The novel ''The Unremembered Empire'' shows the Ultramarines have a number of [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]] within their ranks, even saying their battle cry "We march for Macragge!", one notable group was a full [[Iron Warriors]] Chapter, notice an Ultramarine successor [[Silver Skulls| has similar colors]] to Iron Warriors? Humorously they've rallied to Guilliman's foster mother. And this is also not factoring in those rumors that they absorbed the remnants of the legions of [[Unknown Primarchs|those two brothers they dare not speak of]].

And if none of that calms you down, just pretend that Ward's codex is just some exaggerated propaganda collected from [[Macragge]] that the Smurfs distribute to make their citizens feel better.