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'''Star Wars d20''' is a [[d20 System]] game made by [[Wizards of the Coast]]. It's set in the [[Star Wars]] universe. Preceded by The [[Star_Wars_RPG|Star Wars d6]] game. 

After Wizards let the license go, it has currently passed to [[Fantasy Flight Games]] and now they are doing their own [[Star Wars: Edge of the Empire|RPG]]. 

All systems have their advantages and [[Rage|disadvantages]]

==Star Wars "Revised" Edition==
Basically Star Wars D&D 3rd Edition. 

==Saga Edition==
[[file:Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition Core Rulebook.jpg|400px|right]]

===System===
Was a revised "revised" edition, so they just called it the "Saga" Edition. 

It basically followed the D20 system from D&D but with a great number of differences that put it somewhere in between 3.5e and 4e in the ruleset, which is actually a good thing:

*Skills come in "trained" and "untrained" rather than tracking bazilions of skill points which makes character management much easier. 
*In another nice touch, Armour Class has also been removed, meaning you take your defenses based on your Reflex/Will/Fortitude modifiers.
**Wearing armour provide bonuses to Reflex saves and occasionally Fortitude, but negates any "Heroic bonus" you might gain based on your level, so armour is only really a good thing for lower level characters who have low bonuses, or high level characters specifically trained to use armour.
*Levelling is free-form, you just gain talents from trees available to your class so there is no "End" ability that you have to wait for in levelling up, or might miss if you multi-class. 
**It also means that two players playing the same class can have absolutely no abilities in common whatsoever. 
*Inclusion of "Force" and "Destiny" points, which are a limited pool of points used by player characters which can be used to modify dice rolls, regardless of whether you are Force sensitive or not.
*Another great advantage of this system was its use of the metric system.

Anyone can use the force too, there are entire chapters providing Talents for Force sensitive characters that are essentially universal talents which can be taken by any class. So you don't need to be a Jedi to be an effective force user, which itself adds to the freedom of gameplay as you could be a force-wielding scoundrel and never actually take any talent from the scoundrel trees at all.

The game actively encourages multi-classing though, and there is a "modest" (in comparison to 3e D&D) number of prestige classes available that which provide access to their own, usually restricted list of Talent trees, but also provide class abilities with the core classes don't provide. For example: the "Jedi Master" prestige class provides ''Force Secrets'' which are like metamagic feats and can modify your Force powers in cool ways.

====Classes & Talent Trees====
There are five (six if you count the techie offered web enhancement) core classes in the system, however as mentioned earlier, because the classes simply provide access to talent trees rather than pre-determined level benefits, players who choose the same class can build themselves entirely differently and shouldn't need to be hemmed into a particular class-role if they don't want to.

What follows is mostly a list just to consolidate the widespread rules are for the system and show how varied that characters can be:

CORE CLASSES
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JEDI
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''Don't be fooled, the Jedi talent trees are actually some of the largest in the entire setting. Plus they are meant to be a starting point for multi-class characters, as the "Jedi Knight" prestige class gets a butt-ton more talent trees. Not only that, but they are intended to be generic enough that they can apply to any lightsaber wielding character (Sith, Jal Shey etc).''

*Consular - Using the force for negotiation and conflict resolution
*Guardian - Learning combat related techniques and maneuvers
*Sentinel - Skilled at seeking/resisting dark-side opponents
*Lightsaber Combat - Improving prowess with lightsaber weapons
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NOBLE
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*Anticipation - Able to pre-empt enemy maneuvers
*Collaborator - Manipulate enemies into thinking you are their ally
*Disgrace - Use underhanded tactics to gain advantage
*Exile - Adept in ways of taking care of yourself
*Fencing - Noble fighting style with light weapons or lightsabers
*Gambling - Expose yourself to gain the advantage over an opponent
*Idealogue - Able to provide motivation or demoralisation in certain situations
*Influence - Using interaction skills to overcome opponents non-violently
*Inspiration - Provider of buffs to allies in different situations
*Leadership - Provider of buffs with yourself as the centre of effect
*Lineage - Gain access to skills, equipment and wealth due to family connections
*Loyal Protector - Gain FOLLOWERS and train them as bodyguards
*Master of Intrigue - Able to use adjacent characters to your benefit
*Provocateur - Turn enemies against one another
*Skill Challenge - Bonuses for yourself and allies when using skills
*Superior Skills - Improve your ability when using a particular skill
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SCOUNDREL
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*Brigand - Techniques used to distract and expose the enemy
*Fortune - Provide yourself with luck based bonuses and rerolls
*Misfortune - Gain attacks bonuses which take advantage of enemy mistakes
*Outsider - Exercise caution to avoid dangerous situations
*Opportunist - Take advantage of mishaps
*Recklessness - Gain bonuses and effects in otherwise deadly situations
*Revolutionary - Expert in subversive and resistance tactics
*Run and Gun - Able to make mobile attacks
*Slicer - Master of computer hacking
*Smuggling - Able to provide innocent cover for suspicious situations
*Spacer - Expert in space combat
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SCOUT
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*Advance Patrol - Attack with the advantage of stealth and keen observation
*Awareness - Keen senses that enemies cannot exploit
*Camouflage - Improve your skill at stealth
*Espionage - Able to react to certain situations with the application of stealth
*Fringer - Learn to "make-do" in frontier situations
*Hyperspace Explorer - Expert operator of vehicles
*Master Scout - Talent Tree combining several different disciplines
*Mobile Scout - Maneuvers usable while mounted
*Reconnaissance - Gain FOLLOWERS and train them as scouts
*Surveillance - Expert in perception
*Survivor - New maneuvers in difficult environments
*Spy - Able to use stealth and deception to gather information
*Unpredictable - Make it difficult for enemies to damage you
*Versatility - Gain bonuses of your choice to adapt to any situation
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SOLDIER
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*Ambusher - Take advantage of surprise at the beginning of combat
*Armour Specialist - Maximize the benefits of wearing armour
*Brawler - Expert in melee combat
*Brute Squad - Combat bonuses when accompanied by allies
*Commando - New advanced combat techniques 
*Mercenary - Use underhanded tactics to gain victory
*Rocket Jumper - Expert in the use of jump packs
*Shockboxer - Trained in unarmed combat
*Squad Leader - Gain FOLLOWERS and train them as soldiers
*Trooper - Grant you and your allies combat benefits
*Warrior - Master of endurance and overcoming enemy abilities.
*Weapon Specialist - Weapon bonuses with a specific chosen weapon
*Veteran - Able to overcome injury and psychological effects
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FORCE TALENT TREES (Class free)
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If your character has "Force Sensitivity" then they can take a force talent in place of a talent granted by their class, there are five generic Force talents while the remaining ones require you be a member of or connected to a particular organisation.
*'''Alter''' - Telekinetic and Telepathic mastery
*'''Control''' - Able to regulate your own physiology and center force effects on yourself
*'''Dark Side''' - Abilities drawing from the dark side
*'''Guardian Spirit''' - You have a link with a Force Spirit who gives you guidance
*'''Sense''' - Using the force to increase your perception and read the future
*Aing-Tii Monks - See the Force as a rainbow rather than Light/Dark with focus on Freedom
*Agents of Ossus - Refugees of the Jedi Purge who formed their own tradition
*Bando Gora - Dark Jedi Splinter group who have formed their own dark traditions
*Baran Do Sages - Farseers of the Kel Dor species
*Believers - Adherents to the "old ways" of the Sith 
*Blazing Chain - Force wielding pirates and corsairs
*Dathomiri Witches - Shamanistic female force users who cast "spells" and control animals
*Disciples of Twilight* - Former Jedi looking for new path, found in solitude and shadow
*Embers of Vahla - Dark Side religion, worshippers of fire
*Fallanassi - Ancient isolationist order capable of disappearing into the Force
*Felucian Shamans - Tribal force users of the Felucian species
*Iron Knights - Sentient force using crystals within droid bodies
*Jal Shey  - Scientific explorers of force potential
*Jensaarai - Splinter Dark Jedi philosophy that treads the line between light and dark 
*Keetael - Expert hunters and stalkers using the Force
*Kilian Rangers - Force using knightly order trained in lance and shield
*Korunnai - Nomad tribes from Haruun Kal who create bonds with animal followers
*Krath - Dark side group who have recovered Sith techniques by experimentation
*Luka Sene - Miralukan tradition who use the force to improve sight
*Matukai - Ascetic warriors who use the force to obtain physical perfection
*Seyugi Dervishes - Force trained Death Cult Assassins
*Shapers of Kro Var - Use the force to add elemental effects to your abilities
*Tyia - Pacifistic order dedicated to seeking harmony
*Wardens of the Sky - Travelling warrior monks who keep the space lanes safe
*Zeison Sha - Philosophy of self-sufficiency and telekinetic mastery, users of discblades
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====Prestige Classes====
Like the core classes, they have talent trees, many of which are unique to them. Some classes are very restricted; Jedi Masters for example only have access to one tree in addition to the "class free" Force talents, while others such as the Jedi Knight have unique talent trees up to their armpits. Listing all the trees would become a nightmare so here is simply a consolidated listing of the available classes.

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PRESTIGE CLASS LIST
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*ACE PILOT - Master of vehicular combat
*ASSASSIN - Trained professional killer
*BOUNTY HUNTER - Master tracker and apprehender of wanted persons
*CHARLATAN - Professional con-man and thief
*CORPORATE AGENT - Leader within a non-governmental organisation
*CRIME LORD - Leader of a particular criminal organisation
*DROID COMMANDER - Droid adapted to lead other droids
*ELITE TROOPER - Highly trained combat and tactics specialist
*ENFORCER - Investigator and trained tackler of individual opponents
*FORCE ADEPT - Trainee in force tradition not connected to the Jedi Order
*FORCE DISCIPLE - Master of the mysteries of the Force unconnected to the Jedi
*GLADIATOR - Part combat specialist / part showman
*GUNSLINGER - Small arms specialist
*IMPROVISER - Expert at coming up with quick & ingenious solutions
*INDEPENDENT DROID - Self-Sufficient droid character
*INFILTRATOR - Covert military operative
*JEDI KNIGHT - Member of the Jedi tradition who has passed the Jedi trials
*JEDI MASTER - Highest members of the Jedi Order
*MARTIAL ARTS MASTER - Unarmed combat expert
*MASTER PRIVATEER - Expert pirate and ship-to-ship combat master
*MEDIC - Professional healer
*MELEE DUELIST - Master of a particular melee weapon (may be lightsabers too)
*MILITARY ENGINEER - Tech specialist with military applications
*OFFICER - Trained leaders and trusted members of a military organisation
*OUTLAW - Wanted fugitive and expert at evading capture
*PATHFINDER - Expert in using your environment to your advantage
*SABOTEUR - Master of distruption when it comes to demolitions or technology
*SITH APPRENTICE - Trusted members initiated into deeper mysteries of the Sith Tradition
*SITH MASTER - Highest members of the Sith Tradition
*VANGUARD - Advance scout and strike specialist
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===Sourcebooks===
*'''Saga Edition rulebook''' - The Core rulebook
*'''Threats of the Galaxy''' - basically the Monster Manual
*'''Starships of the Galaxy''' - rules for modifying starships and equipment as well as tons of vehicles.
*'''Scavengers Guide to Droids''' - rules for droid PCs and NPCs
*'''Scum and Villainy''' - rules for everything non-force related
*'''Rebellion Era Campaign Guide''' - rules for playing the rebellion, also added character background rules
*'''Clone Wars Campaign Guide''' - one of the best sourcebooks, adds elegant follower/minion rules that act as extensions of the PCs rather than additional party members. Also adds rules for massed combat.
*'''Force Unleashed Campaign Guide''' - essentially rules for Epic characters, but can be taken at any level. Allowing you to use your limited number of Destiny points to perform Epic shit like in the video game (ie: pulling star destroyers out of the sky)
*'''Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide''' - another pretty good sourcebook covering rules for pretty much everything including lightsaber combat for non-jedi as well as loads of rules for Mandalorians and talents for non-Jedi force users.
*'''Legacy Era Campaign Guide''' - the time after the films, including the return of the two different Empires (with different rules for Imperial Knights and Sith)
*'''Galaxy at War''' - rules benefits for joining large organisations, but mostly just a filler book
*'''Galaxy of Intrigue''' - variant rules for skill challenges, basically a non-combat book.
*'''Jedi Academy: Training Manual''' - book of Force Talents, and also includes tons of other force using traditions other than Jedi that can grant talents if you are a member. Also includes rules for variant lightsabers and the effects of swapping crystals
*'''Unknown Regions''' - another filler book, but mostly a book to allow GMs to just make stuff up since the Saga edition ruleset was coming towards the end of its lifespan.

===Criticisms===
Saga edition loosely followed Star Wars canon for how strength in the force works, meaning that Force Sensitive characters pwn everything and outshine non-sensitive characters. While everyone can be influenced by the Force ''(allowing them to use up "Force points" to modify dice rolls)'' -Actual characters with any force talents/feats can min-max their character to do pretty much anything and therefore only need to improve their ability to ''Use the Force''.

*For example: the "Force Pilot" talent allows players to use their Force skill instead of Pilot skill, while the "Force Persuasion" talent also allows players to use the force instead of their Persuasion skill, Force Healing and so on and so forth. Someone with "Force Block/Deflect" can negate attacks on them with a ''Use the Force'' check and a lightsaber. So basically these characters only need one skill (and only one skill) to play the game. 

Also, the logistics of the system was an unwieldy clusterfuck, which is probably one of the reasons that Wizards could not sustain the system. Rather than having each class self contained in a single sourcebook and then presenting a new class with a new book, the problem with having and keeping so few classes was that options for the classes were presented EVERYWHERE. Meaning your character build could easily have options taken from every single sourcebook to the point that you'd forget where it all came from, and becomes a paperwork nightmare. This is further hindered with some options just being thrown in to whichever sourcebook was released at the time, meaning it's not very intuitive in figuring out where a particular rule comes from.


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